Tyler Robinson's Attorney EP-364 - The Daily Dose Show
2026-08-10
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3qLx6Ify57f6x2JITfHlJq

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Thresham. 0:46 Speaker 1 Enjoy the show, Dosters. 0:48 Speaker 1 I'll ride you like on STP with a b- 0:59 Speaker 1 I'm gonna make it to a Monday. 1:01 Speaker 1 Oh, we got my hotie with greater. 1:02 Speaker 1 I'm gonna be low. 1:03 Speaker 1 I fucking head off on three. 1:05 Speaker 1 This has been a terrible fucking day. 1:07 Speaker 1 Everything doesn't want to fucking work. 1:08 Speaker 1 And I'm cold, but I'm also sweating at the same time. 1:10 Speaker 1 But it's gonna be okay. 1:11 Speaker 1 It's gonna be a great fucking stream. 1:12 Speaker 1 We are live across three different platforms 1:14 Speaker 1 via live across three four coming up later this week. 1:17 Speaker 1 My name's Brandon Thrasher. 1:18 Speaker 1 It is the daily dose show over to this TikTok Charles Iron. 1:20 Speaker 1 Just how you do it? 1:21 Speaker 1 I mean, I feel somewhat bad for you 1:22 Speaker 1 because usually I don't see this side of you 1:26 Speaker 1 until, you know, midway through the week. 1:29 Speaker 1 You know, not on a site, usually on a Sunday, 1:30 Speaker 1 even smoking weed or drinking all weekend, 1:33 Speaker 1 and you're so happy or just chill or drunk. 1:35 Speaker 1 And I don't know, it's sad that you're in this situation. 1:40 Speaker 1 But I'm here and I'm happy. 1:42 Speaker 1 I'm very happy. 1:43 Speaker 1 So I'm gonna have us, it's in a good mood. 1:44 Speaker 1 Yeah, like everything's fucked. 1:46 Speaker 1 Like my audio's fucked. 1:47 Speaker 1 I can't hear myself on my headphones, 1:48 Speaker 1 and then when I turn it up, 1:49 Speaker 1 you're fucking screaming in that motherfucker. 1:51 Speaker 1 You got all kind of shit going on to the background. 1:53 Speaker 1 I know what the fuck's going on with. 1:54 Speaker 1 I woke up this morning. 1:55 Speaker 1 I just wished I was fucking dead. 1:56 Speaker 1 But here we are today, 1:57 Speaker 1 and we're continuing on, we're moving, 1:59 Speaker 1 we're moving through the week, all right? 2:01 Speaker 1 The good thing about your week starting out 2:02 Speaker 1 like complete fucking shit is that it can only get better, right? 2:05 Speaker 1 No, I guess. 2:07 Speaker 1 So I will say, I'm in a good mood 2:10 Speaker 1 because a lot of things happened. 2:11 Speaker 1 I mean, my entire weekend was on the uneventful 2:14 Speaker 1 until today. 2:16 Speaker 1 And today it just kept coming and coming. 2:18 Speaker 1 And it was great. 2:19 Speaker 1 I mean, Savannah, her middle school team they played, 2:21 Speaker 1 they went on to feed it today. 2:23 Speaker 1 I had the luxury of in between the innings, the press box, or where they were like, 2:30 Speaker 1 like, brand number 22, brand of thrasher, you know, the guy that does that. 2:34 Speaker 1 He was playing the music in between the innings and all of a sudden, I hear DMX start. 2:43 Speaker 1 And I'm sitting there and like, you can like, like all the parents are just looking at each other. 2:47 Speaker 1 like, you know, there's two, there's two artists that you never play that you're, because 2:54 Speaker 1 you're always so worried it's going to be unedited. And it was the DMX song. And okay, 2:59 Speaker 1 what's the, and I need you to be somewhat just be our don't go in C 17 on this. What 3:06 Speaker 1 is the worst line? Because this is what blared to the entire stadium. What is the worst 3:12 Speaker 1 line DMX has in one of his songs. 3:16 Speaker 1 I think he's about talking about fucking someone on the ass. 3:20 Speaker 1 That's great. 3:21 Speaker 1 That's a story rate. 3:22 Speaker 1 No, no, no, that's a that's kid rock my bad. 3:25 Speaker 1 Oh God. 3:26 Speaker 1 And it has jail in it. 3:29 Speaker 1 Oh, jail sex? 3:30 Speaker 1 No, it's the line that said, all you in words that been to jail before. 3:36 Speaker 1 So I 3:38 Speaker 1 It's like my dick. 3:40 Speaker 1 I do this blares. 3:43 Speaker 1 They're the speakers. 3:45 Speaker 1 And it's like everybody is in the stadium. 3:48 Speaker 1 Oh, oh my God. 3:50 Speaker 1 Like everyone's like, dude, immediately. 3:52 Speaker 1 Dude, get shut down. 3:54 Speaker 1 Guy that was working in the press box gets like, 3:56 Speaker 1 he's no longer in the press box and all we heard the rest of the game 3:59 Speaker 1 was Ella Langley and that stupid, uh, 4:02 Speaker 1 the Boston song. 4:04 Speaker 1 What's her name? 4:05 Speaker 1 I don't, the new one. 4:06 Speaker 1 Oh Boston song. I don't fucking know. I'm on a train to Boston. Oh, that's a 4:13 Speaker 1 Oh, that's a 4:14 Speaker 1 Left bird. It's a new country song by lefty something. Anyway, lefty, lefty reels. We're gonna get back. Is it? No, we'll get back to that. 4:26 Speaker 1 So anyway, so I leave there and I got to get this out of the way because this is what's driving 4:31 Speaker 1 Brandon crazy because he knows there's all his commotion in the background right now. 4:34 Speaker 1 So as you guys know, I've had firebreak living here forever. 4:40 Speaker 1 He's still in Nashville today apparently 4:42 Speaker 1 with this girl that he met on Christian Mingle or something. 4:44 Speaker 1 I don't know if he's getting sodomized right now for sure. 4:47 Speaker 1 But he's getting like a bunch of liquids shoved up his butt. 4:51 Speaker 1 He's been gone for four days. 4:53 Speaker 1 He's probably dead. 4:54 Speaker 1 I haven't heard a word from him. 4:56 Speaker 1 He's gone. 4:57 Speaker 1 He's, hey, all right here. 4:59 Speaker 1 Because he at this point now that he has nobody 5:01 Speaker 1 or he has emergency contact. 5:03 Speaker 1 My am is a merchant dude. I am. When he got his new job, he asked if he could put me down 5:07 Speaker 1 as a emergency contact. That's pretty awesome. I was like privileged. 5:11 Speaker 1 It looks like I probably won't answer. And then even if I do, you know, I probably 5:13 Speaker 1 got to end it because I'm watching something driving down the road like you thought 5:16 Speaker 1 there's something like that. Like, yeah, I mean, it's been gone for four days. You 5:19 Speaker 1 didn't even check on him. You're not that great of a merchant contact. 5:21 Speaker 1 Okay. The best part is all of his stuff that he owns in his life is either here in 5:25 Speaker 1 my house or it's in the garage. So if anything happens to him, I get to, I get a pretty 5:30 Speaker 1 sweet poll. I mean, I'm not telling his family about any of it. You know what I mean? 5:34 Speaker 1 Don't know. Where's all of his stuff? I don't know. Let's get with him to Nashville. 5:37 Speaker 1 Yeah, because I know there's a law back in the day. I think it was like if you left 5:41 Speaker 1 like your vehicle someone's house for longer than like I don't know a week maybe they could 5:47 Speaker 1 it became theirs. It's kind of like squatters rights. It depends. I don't know the law is exactly 5:51 Speaker 1 maybe it's 30 days now. But there's a certain amount of time if someone just leaves stuff at your 5:56 Speaker 1 house, you can consider that abandoned property. And then it's yours. 5:59 Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure that it's been here for long. It's been here for two months. And he 6:02 Speaker 1 got a new car, but his old hot, you know, hoop D is sitting in the driveway. But I have 6:07 Speaker 1 a solution because, no, again, I haven't heard from him. Thank God. Uh, 6:12 Speaker 1 def August is going to be here again tomorrow. Got his room already. Very excited for 6:16 Speaker 1 def August to come because he always brings gifts. It's a great, great house guest. 6:21 Speaker 1 Def August is great. Okay. Any place with the kids and he cleans up after Megan. It's 6:25 Speaker 1 Wow. So he's just, he's the best, he's the best man serving I've ever had. 6:29 Speaker 1 But you know how mad I get when I have door knockers at eight o'clock at night, 6:35 Speaker 1 or seven o'clock at night, you know how much that makes me mad. 6:37 Speaker 1 I think it makes every door knockers like random people come to your house. 6:40 Speaker 1 It's not like a joke. 6:41 Speaker 1 It's some guy knocked on my door last night and nine o'clock and he had a moxley shirt on. 6:45 Speaker 1 He goes, Hi, sir. I know it's late, but I'm with moxley. 6:48 Speaker 1 And I said, I'm not interested. 6:49 Speaker 1 And he goes, you don't even know what moxley sells. 6:52 Speaker 1 I was like, I don't care what moxley sells. 6:54 Speaker 1 It's not a clog at night. 6:56 Speaker 1 What are you doing knocking on my door? 6:57 Speaker 1 And he goes, 6:58 Speaker 1 what can I get a bottle of water? 7:00 Speaker 1 Not a bottle of water. 7:02 Speaker 1 Can I get a cup of water? 7:03 Speaker 1 Mike, are you kidding me right now? 7:04 Speaker 1 I was like, dude, get out of here. 7:05 Speaker 1 And I slammed the door in his face. 7:07 Speaker 1 And I googled it. 7:07 Speaker 1 I have no idea what Moxie sells. 7:09 Speaker 1 But I don't know what Moxie has. 7:10 Speaker 1 I think the words get around that you're just 7:11 Speaker 1 like having like a halfway house over there. 7:13 Speaker 1 All these guys, he's probably going to like, 7:14 Speaker 1 once he sets up about Moxie, he's probably like, 7:16 Speaker 1 he's probably like, okay, man, look, 7:17 Speaker 1 I'm actually really bad on drugs. 7:19 Speaker 1 And I listen to the show. 7:19 Speaker 1 And all I had with these Moxie stuff, 7:21 Speaker 1 I left in the car. 7:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, please stay here. 7:23 Speaker 1 Please, man, please. 7:24 Speaker 1 OK. 7:25 Speaker 1 That gives me my final point. 7:27 Speaker 1 You just said, I'm running a halfway house. 7:29 Speaker 1 I'm going to turn the camera around so you 7:31 Speaker 1 can see who is sitting on my floor right now. 7:34 Speaker 1 OK. 7:35 Speaker 1 This is what a halfway house looks like. 7:39 Speaker 1 Tear is there. 7:40 Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. 7:42 Speaker 1 I don't know. 7:42 Speaker 1 I don't know. 7:43 Speaker 1 Tear is here. 7:44 Speaker 1 And she's sitting on the floor of the recording area. 7:48 Speaker 1 So that's what's going on. 7:50 Speaker 1 Oh, I see it down. 7:51 Speaker 1 And I don't know. 7:52 Speaker 1 He said, keep it down. 7:54 Speaker 1 It's funny because I get a knock at the door, right? 7:56 Speaker 1 And I do, I just sit down to dinner. 7:59 Speaker 1 And I'm like, I swear to God, if it's that moxelig guy, 8:01 Speaker 1 I'm gonna punch him in the nose, right? 8:03 Speaker 1 I'm like, I hate this moxelig guy. 8:05 Speaker 1 So I get a knock at the door, I open the door. 8:08 Speaker 1 And again, it's one of those situations 8:09 Speaker 1 where I'm not expecting to see Tara. 8:11 Speaker 1 So I go, what's up? 8:14 Speaker 1 She goes, did Megan not tell you I was coming? 8:16 Speaker 1 I go, no, Megan doesn't tell me anything. 8:19 Speaker 1 So she came in, she brought some fee 8:20 Speaker 1 gives for the kids. She had some stuff. She got for a Carter and just cool stuff like that. 8:25 Speaker 1 So and she had to come pick up her her carpet depot shirt from Dean that says it's a good day 8:32 Speaker 1 to get laid at carpet depot. Oh, yeah. The shirts made actually. Okay. Cool. I had to do it. And it's 8:36 Speaker 1 really nice. He only brought it. He only brought me one because he's got to redo the bedroom that 8:41 Speaker 1 that the big dog came over and crapped all over with diarrhea. So he's he's he's said a 8:46 Speaker 1 It's a whole fucking thing. 8:48 Speaker 1 Oh yeah, because he chose a shit on the carpet, right? 8:50 Speaker 1 All over the carpet and it was just liquid 8:52 Speaker 1 and it was spots everywhere. 8:53 Speaker 1 And my favorite part is Dean comes over and he goes, 8:56 Speaker 1 hey, I'll be honest, man, 8:57 Speaker 1 that stuff can seep into the concrete. 8:59 Speaker 1 I go, what? 9:00 Speaker 1 He goes, oh yeah. 9:01 Speaker 1 He goes, he goes, well, we ripped that carpet out. 9:02 Speaker 1 It could be in the concrete. 9:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, concrete. 9:05 Speaker 1 concrete is very porous. 9:07 Speaker 1 Yeah, it allows shit to get in there, a seat through. 9:10 Speaker 1 Stop it, you're blind. 9:11 Speaker 1 You don't know, you're just trying to get Deaned up, sell me. 9:14 Speaker 1 No, no, no, concrete is very porous. 9:15 Speaker 1 That's why you can't create a, if you start a fire on top of concrete, after a while 9:20 Speaker 1 it explodes because the air pocket started expanding and the whole driveway. 9:25 Speaker 1 If you ever done that, if you ever made a fire on top of concrete, I've made a fire 9:28 Speaker 1 on top of concrete, but I've never seen one explode. 9:30 Speaker 1 I didn't get a hot enough, man. 9:31 Speaker 1 You got to do it for like eight hours and be like 230 racks deep and they're like boom, 9:35 Speaker 1 I don't know if there goes the driveway. 9:37 Speaker 1 Okay. 9:38 Speaker 1 Okay. 9:39 Speaker 1 And did you know concrete never stops curing? 9:43 Speaker 1 I don't think that's true either. 9:44 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just constantly it's always getting harder and harder and harder. 9:50 Speaker 1 No, it is. It's where it got. I mean, yeah, I get it. 9:52 Speaker 1 Especially the Hoover Dam. That's just got wet shit in there. 9:56 Speaker 1 I just don't think you're right about the poop. I think diarrhea. I don't 9:59 Speaker 1 need diarrhea can soak into concrete that far. It's pretty acidic. You know, it's got 10:04 Speaker 1 especially dog piss and dog shit because they don't they're never that hydrated. I don't know. 10:07 Speaker 1 I never see him drink beers, but every time I say a dog piss at Jiello's Hill, and I think 10:11 Speaker 1 that's probably why they're grumpy most of time and they're just like their kidneys fail and they 10:14 Speaker 1 probably die real quick. That's weird because I don't know man. I just by the end of this thing with Dean 10:20 Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure he's gonna want to like redo the concrete too. So I don't know what's 10:25 Speaker 1 gonna happen. This is gonna be a very expensive venture because he's only freaked out about the dog 10:29 Speaker 1 diarrhea. But yeah, so that's all we're doing. But hey real quick before we go to what is your 10:34 Speaker 1 such a bad mood for we got to get back to this song. Can you can you google uh, take the song, 10:40 Speaker 1 I have an assistant now. The Boston song by what he's 10:44 Speaker 1 something. While she's doing that, I will tell you that, uh, 10:46 Speaker 1 which had Ted ended up getting an apartment and, uh, he, uh, he, uh, 10:50 Speaker 1 he took Bruno over there. And the bad thing is he's got carpet in the 10:53 Speaker 1 apartment, just like you. Uh, and the one place, the dog, piss twice 10:58 Speaker 1 was on the carpet. He's only been there for four days. He's like, 11:00 Speaker 1 yeah, man, it's starting to smell a lot dog pissing here. 11:02 Speaker 1 He's going back out of town. He's got this girlfriend he's had for two 11:06 Speaker 1 weeks. It's supposed to come over and check on it and everything. 11:08 Speaker 1 Yeah, that entire part was going to be fucking ruined man. I mean, you can't, you can't that dog around car, but I don't know what he was thinking, but 11:14 Speaker 1 The whole thing is going to be destroyed. He'll never get his deposit back and he'll be right where he was. 11:17 Speaker 1 But this is, this is the dog that lived with you guys. So I mean, you're excited about this whole thing, right? 11:21 Speaker 1 For him, he might be, is he moving out permanently to live with Woodshitter? Is he going to come back? 11:25 Speaker 1 I hope he does not come back. I really hope he does not. It was so nice last night. Uh, 11:29 Speaker 1 Woodshad Ted had got the dog four days ago and Deaf August took his dog over to his girlfriend's house. 11:34 Speaker 1 So it was a dog free night. 11:35 Speaker 1 It was so nice and peaceful and quiet. 11:37 Speaker 1 You get to dog, it smells like absolute shit 11:39 Speaker 1 breathing in your mouth and everything. 11:40 Speaker 1 Just like, God, don't mind a dog. 11:42 Speaker 1 Garth's not bad. 11:43 Speaker 1 He doesn't piss or anything, 11:44 Speaker 1 but he does want a lot of affection and everything. 11:45 Speaker 1 And he just smells bad. 11:47 Speaker 1 What's his name? 11:48 Speaker 1 Garth? 11:48 Speaker 1 Garth Vader or Garth Brooks? 11:51 Speaker 1 Yeah, but we call it like Garthavius, 11:53 Speaker 1 Garthale, Garthale, and he's got a bunch of nicknames. 11:56 Speaker 1 All right. 11:57 Speaker 1 Well, the girl's name is Stella Lefty, 11:59 Speaker 1 and she's got the new song Boston. 12:00 Speaker 1 If you haven't heard it, you gotta check it out 12:02 Speaker 1 because it'll stick it's in your head forever, 12:04 Speaker 1 but it is gonna get old quick. 12:06 Speaker 1 Is it that pop country shit? 12:07 Speaker 1 I don't know, she's good. 12:09 Speaker 1 I mean, she's, I think she sounds good. 12:10 Speaker 1 Megan said she's, she's, she's batting for the other team, 12:14 Speaker 1 like Tara. 12:15 Speaker 1 I mean, I don't think that's true. 12:16 Speaker 1 Husbands are fine. 12:17 Speaker 1 The gays are weird. 12:18 Speaker 1 We don't want to do a little dicks in your ass. 12:19 Speaker 1 That's weird, but if you want to do a little scissor 12:21 Speaker 1 and that's fine, little clam action, clam on clam. 12:23 Speaker 1 I don't know, Tara just flip me off, 12:25 Speaker 1 so I'm not allowed to say that. 12:26 Speaker 1 Oh, he can't call her a lesbian. 12:27 Speaker 1 She does support a lot of gays though. 12:29 Speaker 1 Well, that's a rub off on her. 12:30 Speaker 1 But I think that's okay if you're an ally, like she is, 12:33 Speaker 1 but when you tell them that, you know, 12:35 Speaker 1 they're all about being an ally until you call them one. 12:37 Speaker 1 And then it's like, 12:38 Speaker 1 I'm not one of those pieces of shit. 12:40 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm like, I'll be an ally. 12:42 Speaker 1 But you better not tell me how more of them. 12:44 Speaker 1 That's why I was worried about you 12:45 Speaker 1 when you're getting so close to being an ally 12:46 Speaker 1 because I didn't want you to be gay 12:47 Speaker 1 and like ruin your whole family. 12:49 Speaker 1 No, I don't want you to. 12:50 Speaker 1 I don't think that, um, 12:52 Speaker 1 honestly, man, nowadays it's just not looked out the same, 12:54 Speaker 1 you know, like I think if it's a problem. 12:57 Speaker 1 No, if you came out, 12:59 Speaker 1 If you came out of the closet right now, 13:01 Speaker 1 you told me that you were gay, right? 13:04 Speaker 1 Even if you just say like I changed yesterday, 13:06 Speaker 1 like I just, I decided I just clicked, right? 13:09 Speaker 1 I don't think it would change anything. 13:10 Speaker 1 I don't think it would ruin our friendship. 13:12 Speaker 1 I don't think it would ruin the show. 13:13 Speaker 1 I think I've got anything to help us, you know what I mean? 13:16 Speaker 1 Well, I think if something like that were to happen, 13:18 Speaker 1 I would probably realize that devil got to hold me 13:20 Speaker 1 and I'd hang myself with it. 13:22 Speaker 1 Oh God, oh, yeah. 13:24 Speaker 1 And he's not like my dad, dude, my dad. 13:27 Speaker 1 My dad's like, hell's hot son. 13:29 Speaker 1 You ever thought about being gay? 13:30 Speaker 1 Hell's hot. 13:30 Speaker 1 Hell's hot. 13:31 Speaker 1 Did you get off the column? 13:32 Speaker 1 Funny people? 13:33 Speaker 1 That was, you know what's funny is, 13:35 Speaker 1 no pun intended. 13:37 Speaker 1 That was when I was really young, 13:40 Speaker 1 he'd refer to him as funny. 13:42 Speaker 1 Yeah, my grandma's the one who's funny people. 13:44 Speaker 1 I was like, what? 13:46 Speaker 1 I was like funny. 13:46 Speaker 1 But I mean, didn't you realize gay means funny 13:48 Speaker 1 and say, okay, it makes sense. 13:50 Speaker 1 It means happy, not funny. 13:52 Speaker 1 Oh yeah, that's what I meant. 13:53 Speaker 1 Back in the day, these call things gay and then people 13:57 Speaker 1 start being gay like they twisted the word. 14:00 Speaker 1 You know, they did the same thing with the rainbow. 14:02 Speaker 1 They took it for themselves and then they took like half the 14:04 Speaker 1 alphabet and then they took the word gay and then they just 14:06 Speaker 1 take everything and they just don't understand the history 14:09 Speaker 1 behind any of it I think. 14:10 Speaker 1 I mean, but that's what's happening. 14:11 Speaker 1 Dude, it's happening all over the world. 14:12 Speaker 1 There's nothing you can do about it. 14:13 Speaker 1 It's not just that. 14:14 Speaker 1 It's everything. 14:15 Speaker 1 Not nothing sacred anymore. 14:16 Speaker 1 You know what I mean? 14:17 Speaker 1 Like you can't say certain things. 14:19 Speaker 1 You can't do certain things you used to do. 14:21 Speaker 1 I mean, dude, literally used to be fine. 14:24 Speaker 1 You know? 14:25 Speaker 1 Like, the whole time. 14:25 Speaker 1 What used to be fine now. It's a fine exactly we left what's it called we left the Mexican restaurant last night 14:33 Speaker 1 I came over the name of it because I can't pronounce it starts with an X 14:36 Speaker 1 But it's a brand new Mexican restaurant in your house and they give out lollipops when you leave right 14:42 Speaker 1 So of course I see a root beer dumb dumb and I'm like 14:45 Speaker 1 Getting that for myself. So I get a root beer. All the kids get theirs. I 14:49 Speaker 1 Eat it. I as soon as I put it my mouth. I'm like oh god 14:52 Speaker 1 It's not a good one. 14:54 Speaker 1 He's dumb-dumbed on his mid-sittany for a while. 14:57 Speaker 1 So I take the lollipop without the wrapper, 15:00 Speaker 1 and I throw it out the window. 15:03 Speaker 1 Is that littering? 15:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, those sticks, they did deteriorate pretty quickly, 15:09 Speaker 1 but I think as long as there's food on it, 15:11 Speaker 1 I think the animal can eat it and they'll like it. 15:13 Speaker 1 I think a raccoon would like that, 15:15 Speaker 1 like anything, a root beer flavored, 15:16 Speaker 1 raccoons are real big into. 15:18 Speaker 1 And no, I think that's fine. 15:20 Speaker 1 No, I think that's fine. Like the only time I ever used to litter was back in the day 15:24 Speaker 1 You know if you're drinking and driving down the road, you don't want to keep the evidence with you 15:26 Speaker 1 So we always just throw our 15:28 Speaker 1 cans or our glass bottles at like streets times going by that was always fun. I got so good at it 15:33 Speaker 1 I could be from the driver's seat flinging over the truck and hit a sign on the fucking passenger 15:40 Speaker 1 You were a professional litter 15:42 Speaker 1 Yeah, but only beer can it was more I don't really think that's littering 15:46 Speaker 1 I think that's getting rid of evidence, you know 15:48 Speaker 1 You remember the story I told you when we were coming back from Blue Ridge and Fire Break was with me 15:52 Speaker 1 And he had empty can of snuff and he said hey, you're gonna hit that that speed limit sign 15:57 Speaker 1 I said I bet you can't and he hangs out the way though 16:00 Speaker 1 And he nails the speed limit sign we get home and he opens up his snuff and he threw the full can of it 16:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean I want to have some way to it 16:09 Speaker 1 Hey, by the way, dude, I just want to let you know because we're 15 minutes in your audio seems really low 16:16 Speaker 1 All right 16:18 Speaker 1 I'm a fucking brain's out 16:22 Speaker 1 Everything like this that the the board. I'm not gonna just smash the fucking board and get a new one 16:26 Speaker 1 I guess I don't know what the fuck happened. I don't know if my XLR cable 16:30 Speaker 1 I don't know with I mean I haven't changed anything and it just fucks up 16:33 Speaker 1 I get a new camera the goddamn software can and you kill these software don't want fucking it's like you got you got services running 16:39 Speaker 1 I'm like I ain't got fucking shit running you stupid piece of shit. You're facking ass camera 16:43 Speaker 1 Okay, we don't say hey don't go too far. We're on Twitch and stuff 16:47 Speaker 1 Why don't you enlighten me on where this is streaming right now? So I know how much I have to like edit you 16:54 Speaker 1 No, you don't have to me all if we get banned we get banned. That's fine. Whatever because people 16:58 Speaker 1 People on these streams. They do crazy shit, man 17:01 Speaker 1 They got hordes and sluts and they're like saying all kinds of crazy stuff. So I think we'll be okay with it 17:05 Speaker 1 What does that mean what does that mean? They do they do like live like only fan shoots? 17:10 Speaker 1 Somewhat yeah, I mean if a girl can pretty much be naked on camera 17:13 Speaker 1 I think we can say like bad words. 17:15 Speaker 1 They can do that on Twitch. 17:18 Speaker 1 Yeah, as long as you got like tape over your nipples, 17:19 Speaker 1 you're usually pretty good. 17:21 Speaker 1 Why would you do that? 17:22 Speaker 1 Because that's considered like the only part 17:24 Speaker 1 that's like bad, I guess. 17:25 Speaker 1 Like you just put a little, 17:27 Speaker 1 let's take black X's over your nipples, 17:29 Speaker 1 and you're good to go. 17:30 Speaker 1 So they do that on Twitch. 17:31 Speaker 1 Yeah, and that is my Twitch still, 17:34 Speaker 1 but the more popular is kick, 17:36 Speaker 1 they don't really care as much either. 17:37 Speaker 1 So we're on kick rumble and Twitch, 17:39 Speaker 1 just like our first stream right here. 17:41 Speaker 1 So we'll see who gets pissed off the first. 17:43 Speaker 1 I guess we're live. I don't know. It says we are. I haven't checked over the other ones. I got to get the second monitor hooked up 17:47 Speaker 1 We got I see we got Michael Germany here. He said he's a whore. Oh 17:51 Speaker 1 Dude, I see we get comments and stuff in here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we didn't tell anybody we're doing this 17:57 Speaker 1 So or the time or do you think but we'll see who all pops it. How did how did he know we were here? 18:01 Speaker 1 No, I don't know. I guess he follows it. I told him. That's kind of weird. All right. He's just watching us 18:06 Speaker 1 He's he took a gummy and he's been waiting for all weekend for this to happen 18:10 Speaker 1 He's like, I feel like it's been two weeks. 18:12 Speaker 1 The cops are gonna come get me any sick, man. 18:17 Speaker 1 He's gonna watch shows up. 18:18 Speaker 1 I didn't know you guys are going for four hours. 18:20 Speaker 1 That's a long fucking time. 18:23 Speaker 1 But I didn't know a whole lot this weekend. 18:27 Speaker 1 I watched the entire Batman trilogy while I was uploading episodes to the Rumble, 18:31 Speaker 1 everything like that. 18:33 Speaker 1 I forgot how hot and half the way was in the Dark Knight Rises. 18:37 Speaker 1 Oh, kid out of here, dude. 18:39 Speaker 1 What? 18:40 Speaker 1 She's not in half the way, he's not hot. 18:42 Speaker 1 Oh, she's fucking beautiful. 18:44 Speaker 1 And then her waist is, when she plays Catwoman in that motherfucker, 18:46 Speaker 1 especially when she's on the back bike, Bat. 18:48 Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bat bike. 18:50 Speaker 1 And she's arching her back with her ass in the air, 18:52 Speaker 1 as she blows up the tunnel. 18:53 Speaker 1 Oh, my God. 18:54 Speaker 1 I was like, dude, I gotta watch more in half the way. 18:55 Speaker 1 Let me ask you a professional. 18:57 Speaker 1 Hey, Terri, do you think in half the way he's hot? 18:59 Speaker 1 She says she's very pretty. 19:02 Speaker 1 Super hot, yeah, yeah. 19:03 Speaker 1 Gold, you. 19:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 19:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, but, uh, now she's got a lot of folks. 19:07 Speaker 1 got a lot of folks. 19:08 Speaker 1 That's her face doesn't move or anything. 19:10 Speaker 1 It's just kind of stiff and everything like that. 19:11 Speaker 1 But she's still very hot. 19:13 Speaker 1 And I thought she had a little too. 19:14 Speaker 1 I mean, she's probably what? 19:16 Speaker 1 45? 19:17 Speaker 1 Yeah, but I'll go and say on behalf of me 19:19 Speaker 1 and all the 13-year-olds at the time that that movie came out, 19:22 Speaker 1 I mean, she was top of the spank bank for sure. 19:24 Speaker 1 Yeah, but she was, was she catwoman? 19:26 Speaker 1 Yeah. 19:27 Speaker 1 So, dude, she's not even close. 19:28 Speaker 1 Is it gonna catwoman as Haley Berry? 19:31 Speaker 1 Holly Berry, the black chick? 19:33 Speaker 1 Yeah. 19:33 Speaker 1 No, hell no. 19:36 Speaker 1 What do you mean? 19:37 Speaker 1 I can't woman's body was so much better and how what was hella very even fucking cat woman. Ali Berry was batwoman with 19:44 Speaker 1 Man that's what oh, she maybe she's bat one. No. No, it's it's holly Berry was cat woman 19:51 Speaker 1 I don't think so. I don't think you did you're killing me right now. I bet you five bucks she was 19:56 Speaker 1 Well considering the Christopher Nolan movies went from 0-3 to 12 and there's only been one with Robert Pattinson in 22 called the Batman 20:03 Speaker 1 I don't know what movie she would have been in. 20:05 Speaker 1 Oh, Catwoman, 2004. 20:07 Speaker 1 Mmm. 20:08 Speaker 1 That's her own movie. That's not with Batman. 20:10 Speaker 1 No one's watching Catwoman on its own. 20:12 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It says here a shy woman is reborn with catpowers 20:15 Speaker 1 to fight an evil makeup company. 20:17 Speaker 1 Yeah, no one's watching that. 20:19 Speaker 1 But makeup company, did she really fight a makeup company? 20:22 Speaker 1 Yes, you know what's watching that. That's stupid. 20:25 Speaker 1 Exactly. 20:26 Speaker 1 She's like, wait a minute, you're telling me, L'Oreal, 20:28 Speaker 1 you're telling me L'Oreal is selling non-organic 20:31 Speaker 1 organic makeup and then all son she comes batwoman that's our catwoman that's stupid. 20:37 Speaker 1 Yeah I don't know they probably were testing on animals or something on cats I guess. 20:40 Speaker 1 They were coming over the new pussy product and she's like you gotta confuse you know if 20:44 Speaker 1 it was John as their cats and she don't know what the fuck's going on but uh no what yeah so Jeremy 20:50 Speaker 1 know Autosail and Hathaway uh what uh what did you do this weekend how was your weekend? 20:54 Speaker 1 That's it man I mean we you know Friday was uh pretty slant so we've had a lot of storms in 20:58 Speaker 1 Georgia. And I do, this is crazy. I don't know what's going on. I think it's just because 21:03 Speaker 1 the, the large amounts of rain. I think we have an inch of rain on Saturday allegedly 21:08 Speaker 1 two inches of rain today in this area. But all I've been getting is phone calls, text 21:14 Speaker 1 messages and pictures sent to me of trees just falling or breaking in half and people's 21:19 Speaker 1 yards. So that's all I've done a week in. I mean, it's Sunday right now is the time 21:22 Speaker 1 of this recording. I just got done going to somebody's house, a cop's house actually 21:25 Speaker 1 where a tree fell on his house. 21:27 Speaker 1 And it's nuts. 21:29 Speaker 1 I'm telling people, I believe me if you want, 21:31 Speaker 1 don't believe me if you want. 21:32 Speaker 1 I don't care where you live in the United States. 21:34 Speaker 1 If you get a lot of rain, dude, 21:36 Speaker 1 you got trees near you, remove them, okay? 21:39 Speaker 1 You're not gonna kill anybody. 21:40 Speaker 1 Oxygen, I promise you, we're gonna live on. 21:42 Speaker 1 It's like littering, okay? 21:43 Speaker 1 You can throw out the lollipop stick. 21:45 Speaker 1 You're gonna be okay. 21:46 Speaker 1 Do you charge less if the tree is already on the house 21:48 Speaker 1 like he's already falling? 21:49 Speaker 1 Yeah, usually, if it's easy to get off 21:51 Speaker 1 and you don't care how we take it off. 21:54 Speaker 1 But I mean, if you want us to be all gentle, 21:56 Speaker 1 like right now we got one that's hung up in the neighbor's tree. 21:58 Speaker 1 But if we mess it up, it's gonna just fall on the neighbor's house. 22:02 Speaker 1 So that one's gonna take a little while. 22:04 Speaker 1 So we got two off in here. 22:07 Speaker 1 We can do real slow. 22:08 Speaker 1 It's going cross five grand. 22:09 Speaker 1 We can do it real quick. 22:10 Speaker 1 It's going to cost a thousand by it. 22:11 Speaker 1 Okay, go with that one. 22:12 Speaker 1 You're just hook a fucking chain to the tree to the truck 22:15 Speaker 1 and just scrape it across the whole side of the house 22:16 Speaker 1 and just rip it down. 22:17 Speaker 1 You're not even kidding. 22:19 Speaker 1 You're not even kidding. 22:19 Speaker 1 Like I tell you, okay, I can get it off, man. 22:21 Speaker 1 I can get it off quick, 22:22 Speaker 1 but it's gonna mess up your gutters. 22:23 Speaker 1 You're going to have extra roof damage and they're like, 22:25 Speaker 1 well, I'm not using insurance anyway. 22:27 Speaker 1 So just get it off. 22:28 Speaker 1 I'm like, okay. 22:30 Speaker 1 So insurance. 22:31 Speaker 1 Well, we're going to use insurance. 22:32 Speaker 1 I'm fucking tree goes to their house. 22:33 Speaker 1 A lot of people don't use insurance anymore. 22:34 Speaker 1 It's not worth it, dude. 22:35 Speaker 1 You use insurance. 22:36 Speaker 1 You got to pay your deductible. 22:37 Speaker 1 It's going to be between three and 4,000 most likely on average. 22:40 Speaker 1 And then you got to pay the company to take the tree off, 22:43 Speaker 1 get to pay the company to tar the home. 22:44 Speaker 1 You got to pay the company to fix the roof. 22:46 Speaker 1 By the time you're done, some insurance companies, 22:49 Speaker 1 all state, state farm, you're only going to walk away 22:53 Speaker 1 of maybe $800 and you're going to get dropped by your insurance company. 22:56 Speaker 1 And the next one that picks you up, you're going to be paying almost twice what 22:58 Speaker 1 you're paying before you because you have a claim insurance is a racket. 23:01 Speaker 1 So if you, unless your house is destroyed, just fix it yourself, 23:05 Speaker 1 bite the bullet, spend the money. 23:07 Speaker 1 Yeah, I find it crazy that they only like, they'll only required insurance 23:10 Speaker 1 as car insurance because you don't have to have health insurance. 23:12 Speaker 1 You don't have to have home insurance. 23:13 Speaker 1 Right. 23:14 Speaker 1 I think you do have to have health insurance. 23:15 Speaker 1 Is that a law? 23:17 Speaker 1 I don't know. 23:17 Speaker 1 I don't know if that is. 23:18 Speaker 1 I'm breaking it. 23:19 Speaker 1 No, I think. 23:20 Speaker 1 I think that's the whole point of Obamacare is now you're mandated to have health insurance, 23:28 Speaker 1 but you can get it free from the, what's that frickest stupid database called for Obamacare? 23:35 Speaker 1 Medicaid, Medicare. 23:36 Speaker 1 No. 23:37 Speaker 1 Yeah, in the marketplace. 23:38 Speaker 1 Thank you, Tara. 23:39 Speaker 1 She's a good assistant. 23:40 Speaker 1 Dude, I'm going to have to put her over here just so I can get information quickly. 23:43 Speaker 1 Yeah. 23:44 Speaker 1 No, I mean, I don't know what they're going to do if you don't have fucking insurance, 23:47 Speaker 1 Because now before Biden left, he changed the thing where medical debt can't go to your record 23:52 Speaker 1 or hurt your credit or whatnot. 23:53 Speaker 1 So if I really need to go to the hospital, I'll just go to the ER. 23:55 Speaker 1 I'll just tell him my name's Chuck Ironfist. 23:57 Speaker 1 I never gonna find me and they got it. 24:00 Speaker 1 Give you care. 24:01 Speaker 1 And then you just never fucking pay it. 24:02 Speaker 1 I had to check one of my friends. 24:03 Speaker 1 She works at a hospital. 24:04 Speaker 1 She's like, you don't believe other people. 24:06 Speaker 1 They don't pay your bills or their bills. 24:07 Speaker 1 I'm like, bitch, who gives a fuck? 24:09 Speaker 1 You're not doing the fucking, it's not coming out of your pocket. 24:12 Speaker 1 Who gives a damn? 24:13 Speaker 1 It's the medical, I mean, they're charging 50 grand for five ad bills. 24:16 Speaker 1 like what the fuck are you talking about? 24:18 Speaker 1 I know. And you know, and do what's bad is, and this is very unpopular opinion. 24:21 Speaker 1 I know. And people are going to beat me up over this, but I'm just going to say it. 24:24 Speaker 1 Every country in the world almost has universal healthcare, which means they can just go in, 24:30 Speaker 1 get their stuff done. They never have to pay. If you really think about it and Manny's listening 24:34 Speaker 1 backstage, if you really think about it, we too have universal healthcare. You just got to do it 24:40 Speaker 1 the way Brandon said, you got to go to the emergency room, get your little pills or whatever for 24:45 Speaker 1 for your little cough. 24:46 Speaker 1 And then they send you a bill. 24:48 Speaker 1 Just don't pay it. 24:49 Speaker 1 Nobody's coming at you. 24:50 Speaker 1 There's not a ER police that comes after you and arrest you. 24:54 Speaker 1 They can't go on your credit. 24:55 Speaker 1 So I mean, who cares? 24:57 Speaker 1 Just don't pay your bill. 24:58 Speaker 1 We technically have universal healthcare. 25:00 Speaker 1 And Manny would agree with me. 25:02 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm just saying like, 25:03 Speaker 1 I'm not going to the doctor for it. 25:04 Speaker 1 The only thing I'm going to the doctor for 25:06 Speaker 1 is if like something's broken 25:07 Speaker 1 and I can't fix it myself. 25:08 Speaker 1 Like a broke finger, 25:09 Speaker 1 I'm not going to broke hand probably not going. 25:11 Speaker 1 I'm probably just reset it and wrap it up. 25:13 Speaker 1 I broke arm. 25:14 Speaker 1 I mean when I broke my left hand they didn't fucking do anything they just wrapped it and gave me fucking medicine 25:19 Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't reset a bone 25:21 Speaker 1 Why not you put your hand flat on the table and just buy them smack 25:25 Speaker 1 All the go bones go back where they're supposed to you can't you can't 25:30 Speaker 1 Your hand smashed in like 50 places you're like hey Chuck man. I need you to reset it. How do I do that? See that's led jammer over there 25:37 Speaker 1 I just got to do with another hand. 25:40 Speaker 1 You just smack it all down to, 25:41 Speaker 1 bah! 25:42 Speaker 1 Oh my God! 25:44 Speaker 1 I just took out the whole operation with that. 25:47 Speaker 1 Here's what you just hit the button for the freaking sec. 25:52 Speaker 1 We buttoned it at the same time and knocked my camera. 25:55 Speaker 1 Oh my God, that was funny. 25:58 Speaker 1 All right, well, soon my camera fucking turns back on. 26:00 Speaker 1 There it is. 26:03 Speaker 1 Eight, and then that's all you gotta do 26:04 Speaker 1 to fix the fucking broken. 26:06 Speaker 1 We don't need to block work or nothing. We're back. 26:08 Speaker 1 Hands fixed. Look at that. So. 26:10 Speaker 1 All right. We're going to go and bring on the mad dog, 26:12 Speaker 1 Manny Aurora. How you doing down here, Matt? 26:14 Speaker 1 No. 26:15 Speaker 1 Do the right. 26:16 Speaker 1 Like a dumb ass yesterday speaking health care. 26:18 Speaker 1 I got my flu shot. 26:20 Speaker 1 I know it's early, but the CDC released it. 26:22 Speaker 1 I got my shingle shot because I'm over 55. 26:26 Speaker 1 And I got my tetanus shot. 26:28 Speaker 1 I don't know why I needed that. 26:29 Speaker 1 So I've just been knocked out today. 26:32 Speaker 1 You didn't get your up. 26:33 Speaker 1 You got all those shots. 26:34 Speaker 1 shots. You don't want to get your COVID booster also. I don't think I needed that one, 26:38 Speaker 1 but I got one eight, nine months ago. I was three and one day. It was just way too much 26:43 Speaker 1 being today was brutal. 26:46 Speaker 1 I looked over the shinkles shot just knocks you on your ass. 26:52 Speaker 1 I just got a bunch of viruses floating around in his body's fighting. But hell yeah, well 26:56 Speaker 1 we're glad to have you on Matt dog before we move in anything. I actually was looking 27:00 Speaker 1 up the other day for a new series on Instagram called they want to opening, open 27:04 Speaker 1 caring, uh, until it becomes a problem. I'm going to get the guns bigger and bigger. 27:07 Speaker 1 And funny enough, if you look up, open carry laws in Georgia, your, your, uh, 27:12 Speaker 1 your website is the first one to pop up. I guess you did a blog post when that 27:15 Speaker 1 first got changed. Yeah, once the rules changed, and you don't need the permits and 27:20 Speaker 1 anything anymore, you can just carry notes and do whatever you want. 27:24 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to talk about it. Yeah, I'm going to walk in, uh, probably next 27:28 Speaker 1 week or the week after. I'm aware of my Taliban outfit. I'm going to walk in open carrying 27:31 Speaker 1 in AK. That's legal, right? 27:34 Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, like, do you guys remember when all the people marched on the capital during 27:39 Speaker 1 the 2020 election, they all came in with their masks on and their GI Joe masks on and big 27:45 Speaker 1 ass machine guns or M16s and stuff like that. They did it, Michigan, a lot of other places. 27:51 Speaker 1 You remember that big group of ways that went and did that. Yeah. So technically, you can 27:55 Speaker 1 carried kind of anywhere. Yeah, but you you you said white guys. Okay, Brandon just said he's gonna wear his job with an AK 47 and open carry. And you did this is gonna be shot by somebody. So, okay. Thank you. I'll be taking over part two of the podcast. We'll need a new position. 28:12 Speaker 1 We'll get a, I would have a case right. It's someone to shoot me. 28:15 Speaker 1 You're dead. So, yes, somebody in your family would have a case. 28:19 Speaker 1 I don't think I'll be dead. I think I have. I don't think they're going to die. 28:21 Speaker 1 I think I'm technically his emergency contact. 28:23 Speaker 1 So I would be, I'd be the one that has to sue, right? 28:26 Speaker 1 Although it's got me some real attitude. 28:28 Speaker 1 Legaling. 28:29 Speaker 1 Otherwise anybody could say I'm friends with this guy and sue on his behalf. 28:32 Speaker 1 You need to come out from the budget. 28:33 Speaker 1 Are you allowed to? 28:34 Speaker 1 Like, let's say you have a really good friend, right? 28:36 Speaker 1 Like, let's say me and Brandon, I'm just, just don't them to spit ball in here. 28:39 Speaker 1 Could me and Brandon ever go to like a court or something and legally become brothers 28:44 Speaker 1 without like our parents getting married? 28:45 Speaker 1 I don't think so. 28:48 Speaker 1 What he could do is, in his will, leave you as the executor, so if he gets gunned down by 28:53 Speaker 1 somebody, use the executor on his behalf, could fall the suit. 28:57 Speaker 1 Otherwise you're just a regular Joe in the street that you might know him. 29:01 Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. 29:02 Speaker 1 So it's like me doing something for him. 29:03 Speaker 1 I couldn't do it. 29:04 Speaker 1 You have to be related. 29:06 Speaker 1 All I want is Spotify password. 29:08 Speaker 1 So I mean, I feel like, you know, if that's all I want, that's not that big of a deal. 29:12 Speaker 1 I could probably just ask his dad when he dies and his dad would just give it to me 29:14 Speaker 1 So the show would go on. How about that? I don't know how would anybody know Brandon? 29:19 Speaker 1 That's why we talk about this all the time. It's stupid that you're the only one that has the freaking password. 29:23 Speaker 1 It's gone. You're the only one that has access to the website separation of powers, maybe Manny knows he's a fucking 29:27 Speaker 1 apparently. Yeah, say it like that. You know, one last question on the gun thing before we move on. You're talking about all the people walking around with mask and everything. 29:34 Speaker 1 Now I know technically I think it's illegal to carry a weapon and have a mask on, correct? 29:39 Speaker 1 I don't know that one off the top of my head, but a few years ago, that's what people were doing. 29:44 Speaker 1 There were in those little, I don't know. 29:46 Speaker 1 I call them like the fishermen's masks. 29:49 Speaker 1 You know, the guys on the boats have that thing that covers their back and their face 29:52 Speaker 1 when they're selling all day. 29:54 Speaker 1 What's that? 29:55 Speaker 1 They're called gators. 29:56 Speaker 1 Okay. 29:57 Speaker 1 I'm sorry. 29:58 Speaker 1 I'm just not. 29:59 Speaker 1 Or, or, or if the hood version is size-tease. 30:01 Speaker 1 He said I'm not an entry enough. 30:03 Speaker 1 So yeah, they wear those with their guns. 30:07 Speaker 1 I don't know if I haven't looked it up because I haven't been a case here. 30:10 Speaker 1 But yeah, just you do that in a non-white situation. 30:15 Speaker 1 It's going to be an issue. 30:15 Speaker 1 But can you imagine a group of Muslim guys carrying those guns 30:19 Speaker 1 going into the capital protesting the 2020 election? 30:22 Speaker 1 Like, you know, it happened that would not end well. 30:26 Speaker 1 Yeah, I maybe so you're saying I've probably 30:28 Speaker 1 like level three armor also where there are any five jobs. 30:33 Speaker 1 It can be. 30:34 Speaker 1 That's not going to do much. 30:36 Speaker 1 I guess a nine mil? 30:37 Speaker 1 No, I think he's worried about somebody shooting you 30:39 Speaker 1 with like, you know, five, five, six, 30:41 Speaker 1 or about 30 out six or something. 30:43 Speaker 1 Yeah, plus all the colors are going down there. 30:45 Speaker 1 You gotta be carrying a 30 out of six around Walmart also. 30:47 Speaker 1 We're gonna be on the same team. 30:48 Speaker 1 I got an AK's got a 30 out of the, 30:49 Speaker 1 I'm not going with you dude. 30:51 Speaker 1 If anything, you gotta take Manny. 30:54 Speaker 1 Yeah, so I'm just a turdie. 30:55 Speaker 1 You killed him, you're going to jail. 30:56 Speaker 1 And then I wake up, I'm not dead. 30:58 Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 30:59 Speaker 1 He's so stupid. 31:02 Speaker 1 I'll pull some fishing line or something 31:03 Speaker 1 and people will see where they freak out. 31:04 Speaker 1 but okay cool. 31:07 Speaker 1 The good news is he's uniting the different cultures 31:09 Speaker 1 because they all wanna kill him. 31:12 Speaker 1 Oh yeah, I think about it. 31:13 Speaker 1 That's bringing people together. 31:14 Speaker 1 It's actually very noble of him. 31:16 Speaker 1 Wasn't there a white guy in, 31:18 Speaker 1 not after 9-11 that went over to Afghanistan 31:21 Speaker 1 and fought for the Taliban? 31:23 Speaker 1 Yeah, they have a bunch of people that signed up 31:25 Speaker 1 from it that flew out here 31:26 Speaker 1 and a couple were prosecuted when they came back. 31:28 Speaker 1 That's right, like you said, Steve. 31:30 Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they got that guy mixed up with Pat Tillman 31:33 Speaker 1 when they shot him in the back of the head or whatnot. 31:35 Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's sad, dude. Too soon, Brandon. 31:38 Speaker 1 Not too soon. It's been like 20 years and Americans killed him. 31:41 Speaker 1 You think that's what really happy the Americans killed him is. 31:44 Speaker 1 Oh, it's squad kill them. 31:45 Speaker 1 I said it's friendly fires. 31:47 Speaker 1 We don't know what happened. 31:48 Speaker 1 That would be a friendly, meaning an American that shot him. 31:51 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, because you're speaking out too much. 31:53 Speaker 1 But all right, we got mad dog on. Obviously for GTA voice panels, we got three of them here. 31:58 Speaker 1 For you, but before we get into that, a mad dog is now becoming a podcast or 32:02 Speaker 1 also in his own sense, not just on our show, but he's going to be doing his own segments. 32:06 Speaker 1 And he actually did one about last week, I believe. 32:09 Speaker 1 We're going to have that put on into this episode. 32:11 Speaker 1 But Matt, you kind of just want to one through what your plan is for this new segment. 32:15 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's something I do with you guys really, because I don't know what the hell I'm 32:19 Speaker 1 doing. 32:20 Speaker 1 But I'm in this group called American Board of Criminal Lawyers. 32:23 Speaker 1 There's about 180 of us nationwide to include parts of Mexico and Canada where they have 32:30 Speaker 1 good criminal defense lawyers. 32:32 Speaker 1 So you have to get invited and you check all your backgrounds 32:35 Speaker 1 and your cases and you have to have so many acquittals 32:37 Speaker 1 on big cases and that so many judges have to approve you 32:40 Speaker 1 and all that kind of stuff. 32:42 Speaker 1 So anyway, by some fortune I got into this group 32:44 Speaker 1 a few years ago and so I'm just talking to them. 32:47 Speaker 1 We have three conferences a year. 32:49 Speaker 1 So I'm just talking to people. 32:50 Speaker 1 One of the big ones I'm gonna do is the guy 32:54 Speaker 1 that shot the right wing guy in Utah. 32:58 Speaker 1 What was his name? 32:59 Speaker 1 Charlie Kirk. 33:00 Speaker 1 Charlie Kirk. 33:00 Speaker 1 representing the guy that shot him. Right now there's a gag order. So she'll do that show with us afterwards. 33:06 Speaker 1 But she'd just done earlier this year a case where a wife was accused of 33:12 Speaker 1 overnosing her husband on fentanyl. They're wealthy people up in Utah. It was all over 33:17 Speaker 1 court TV and stuff. So I'm trying to do these little 30 minute segments just talking about the lawyers and the cases and the in-depth and the back and forth. 33:25 Speaker 1 And some hoping people will enjoy it. 33:27 Speaker 1 So we did one, Brandon was nice enough to make it look good. 33:32 Speaker 1 And you guys are going to post them for me. 33:35 Speaker 1 And I'm going to try to do one at least one a month, 33:38 Speaker 1 maybe every three weeks, something like that, 33:39 Speaker 1 depending on people's schedules and how soon I can talk to them. 33:42 Speaker 1 But you're going to meet some of the biggest lawyers 33:43 Speaker 1 across the country. 33:44 Speaker 1 We've got one of the lawyers that represented 33:48 Speaker 1 the fella from Venezuela. 33:49 Speaker 1 You know, that's being prosecuted federally. 33:52 Speaker 1 I want to recall, he's is representing him 33:54 Speaker 1 out of the DC circuit and so on and so forth. 33:56 Speaker 1 You're talking about Maduro? 33:57 Speaker 1 Yeah. 33:58 Speaker 1 Wow. 33:59 Speaker 1 That was going to be my question though. 34:01 Speaker 1 Do you guys, like when all you attorneys get together 34:03 Speaker 1 or you're at these conferences, because I know 34:05 Speaker 1 like when I was a federal agent, you'd 34:07 Speaker 1 get together with all these other feds. 34:08 Speaker 1 You talk about cases, you're running, 34:09 Speaker 1 who's got the craziest case. 34:11 Speaker 1 Do you guys ever talk about like, hey, 34:12 Speaker 1 who's got the most, who's got the biggest celebrity 34:15 Speaker 1 that they're currently representing? 34:17 Speaker 1 And if you can just off the top of your head, 34:19 Speaker 1 who do you think would have the record for that? 34:21 Speaker 1 Like do you know who represented P-Diddy? 34:24 Speaker 1 Yeah, Brian Steele. He's in our group as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's young thugs lower too. Yeah, he was a thugs lawyer, but 34:32 Speaker 1 He's excellent. He's just a hit system in his wife 34:36 Speaker 1 And so he did those two cases. Unfortunately the client's lost, but it was still a really good job in his part compared to what the government was trying to do to him 34:45 Speaker 1 Now have you seen the movie Sicario? 34:48 Speaker 1 Yes, I've seen both of them. Okay. So this is the old Del Toro 34:51 Speaker 1 obviously when he was an attorney in Mexico City and then they killed his whole family and then he started to become a 34:55 Speaker 1 Colombian drug lord and then now he's exactly revenge on people. Do you know anybody like that? 35:00 Speaker 1 No, I just know lawyers that represent folks as far as that goes. None of the lawyers 35:05 Speaker 1 I don't think are exactly revenge on anybody. They'll just try to make a living. 35:08 Speaker 1 But we've got some of the biggest guys from California, New York, you know, so on and so forth. 35:13 Speaker 1 And so hopefully people will find it interesting. One of the next ones I'm going to do is a guy from Chicago 35:18 Speaker 1 who's a huge deal out there. 35:22 Speaker 1 And then I've got a big one in Miami 35:23 Speaker 1 getting teed up as well. 35:25 Speaker 1 Well, it's probably nice when you all go to these conferences 35:28 Speaker 1 and everything. 35:29 Speaker 1 Because you don't really have to worry 35:30 Speaker 1 since you're all defense attorneys 35:31 Speaker 1 about people trying to assassinate you. 35:33 Speaker 1 Like if this was like prosecuting attorneys having this meeting, 35:36 Speaker 1 they probably high security 35:38 Speaker 1 and really worry someone's gonna blow up the building, right? 35:41 Speaker 1 I haven't found that to be the case. 35:43 Speaker 1 I mean, on the defense side, 35:44 Speaker 1 I've known a couple of lawyers like I've beat up 35:45 Speaker 1 on their clients, but I think they deserve it 35:47 Speaker 1 because one guy, remember in the middle of a murder trial, 35:51 Speaker 1 how they take recesses. 35:53 Speaker 1 And the guy, instead of prepping for the next witness, 35:55 Speaker 1 is just sitting there reading his novel of some kind, 36:00 Speaker 1 just for pleasure reading in the middle of it 36:02 Speaker 1 while the client's shuttling back and forth 36:04 Speaker 1 from the holding area in the back of the courtroom. 36:06 Speaker 1 He's out front playing. 36:07 Speaker 1 He's out front playing. 36:08 Speaker 1 He's playing in the parking lot. 36:09 Speaker 1 Right, the clients like ours, I mean, they know how much we care 36:12 Speaker 1 and how much effort we put into it. 36:14 Speaker 1 And why we was with them on Sundays, 36:16 Speaker 1 I admit, visit with clients so Christmas, you know, all that kind of stuff. 36:19 Speaker 1 They know how much we care. 36:21 Speaker 1 To try to do our best for them. 36:22 Speaker 1 And so I've never really had that problem from the gang. 36:24 Speaker 1 I mean, the head of the nine-trig youngsters was one of our clients. 36:28 Speaker 1 We've got the former gangster disciples and all that kind of stuff from Chicago. 36:35 Speaker 1 I represented the head guy there. 36:37 Speaker 1 And we lost badly, but, you know, putting a good effort, but he had 17 people 36:41 Speaker 1 snitching against him. 36:42 Speaker 1 So it's going to be tough. 36:43 Speaker 1 But yeah, we've never had that problem. 36:45 Speaker 1 And so most of these lawyers, you don't get to beat this level. 36:49 Speaker 1 I mean, I'm just fortunate to be there, 36:51 Speaker 1 but you don't get to beat this level without really putting 36:53 Speaker 1 in the effort and clients, appreciating who you are, 36:56 Speaker 1 because it's all a word of mouth. 36:57 Speaker 1 Have you ever watched suits? 37:00 Speaker 1 I have not, but I've heard it's really supposed to be good 37:02 Speaker 1 and some guy pretending to be a lawyer that's 37:04 Speaker 1 released more or something. 37:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, that was my question. 37:06 Speaker 1 So when you guys were attorneys, like, because in suits, 37:08 Speaker 1 he fakes that he graduated from Harvard. 37:10 Speaker 1 They hire him. 37:12 Speaker 1 He somehow manipulates the Harvard system 37:15 Speaker 1 to put himself as a graduate. 37:17 Speaker 1 I mean, let's just say Brandon walked into your law, 37:22 Speaker 1 like your firm, and he had a degree from Harvard, 37:25 Speaker 1 and he had transcripts from Harvard. 37:27 Speaker 1 Do you guys really dive in and I'm gonna tell him about you, 37:29 Speaker 1 because I don't want people just to go, 37:31 Speaker 1 oh, I'm gonna hire, I'm gonna go to the world law firm. 37:33 Speaker 1 Could this happen in real life 37:34 Speaker 1 where somebody could actually pose as an attorney 37:36 Speaker 1 as long as your partner's past the bar, 37:37 Speaker 1 that's all that matters, right? 37:38 Speaker 1 You can't take the barks unless you graduated from a credit at school. 37:44 Speaker 1 Unless you're in California where you can do what's called, you know, you serve as an apprentice, 37:50 Speaker 1 like Kim Kardashian wanted to do, you know, stuff like that. 37:53 Speaker 1 And Wisconsin, you don't have to take the barks because if they believe if you can graduate 37:57 Speaker 1 from one of their law schools, you're good enough. 37:59 Speaker 1 So there's a couple of outlier places, but most places you have to graduate from a 38:05 Speaker 1 in a credit school and have a bar number 38:08 Speaker 1 and a license and all that stuff. 38:09 Speaker 1 So I guess you could fake all that. 38:12 Speaker 1 I don't necessarily check so much 38:14 Speaker 1 except for their transcripts, 38:15 Speaker 1 which I guess could be fake, 38:16 Speaker 1 but I do call their referrals. 38:19 Speaker 1 And most of the referrals are former professors 38:21 Speaker 1 or things like that. 38:22 Speaker 1 So I knew to uncheck that out. 38:24 Speaker 1 So what you're saying right now is Tony Roma 38:25 Speaker 1 sitting in jail and his attorney's looking at shit on Google 38:29 Speaker 1 asking AI, but how do I defend this man? 38:31 Speaker 1 That would be a problem if you're asking Claude, 38:34 Speaker 1 how to do something like that. 38:35 Speaker 1 Yeah, speaking of, before we get to the other stuff, 38:37 Speaker 1 I gotta ask you because I know everyone's paying attention 38:39 Speaker 1 to this Tony Romo thing, 38:40 Speaker 1 because I don't know if you've heard Tony Romo, 38:42 Speaker 1 you know, he's got that huge contract. 38:43 Speaker 1 Is it with Fox Brandon? 38:44 Speaker 1 It's Fox? 38:45 Speaker 1 Yeah, thanks, Fox, yeah. 38:46 Speaker 1 And now JJ Watts gonna be filling in for him 38:48 Speaker 1 because he's on suspended leave 38:51 Speaker 1 because of this DUI that he had. 38:53 Speaker 1 Have you watched the body camera footage 38:55 Speaker 1 of the Tony Romo arrest jet, Manny? 38:58 Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a few weeks ago, whenever I watched it, 39:00 Speaker 1 I couldn't tell if he looked that bad 39:02 Speaker 1 or if he was just always that happy kind of thing, 39:04 Speaker 1 He shouldn't be in jail. 39:05 Speaker 1 I mean, you should get bond of the UI, 39:07 Speaker 1 but it's a little rich to hold everybody 39:10 Speaker 1 to a different standard. 39:11 Speaker 1 I mean, you know how many people in America have 39:13 Speaker 1 the UIs or other related crimes? 39:16 Speaker 1 And this is the first time you've ever seen your 39:18 Speaker 1 beaten your wife, that's one thing. 39:19 Speaker 1 And look the way he did it. 39:20 Speaker 1 I mean, he did it, I mean, I hate to say it. 39:22 Speaker 1 He did it respectful. 39:24 Speaker 1 He did it classy. 39:25 Speaker 1 Not one time that he said there and go, 39:26 Speaker 1 you know who I am? 39:27 Speaker 1 blah, blah, blah. 39:28 Speaker 1 I just get stupid, 39:29 Speaker 1 because I love Tony Romo as an analyst. 39:31 Speaker 1 And this is the, I mean, I get it if there's a pattern, 39:34 Speaker 1 but I just think we need you need to get on this man you need to get my man out of trouble 39:38 Speaker 1 i wish you call this that would be a fun thing 39:42 Speaker 1 i think the problem with that one was though he said he was coming from the golf course 39:45 Speaker 1 he probably should have said he was like coming from church right like helping out 39:48 Speaker 1 it was a sunday and he's out just helping out in my local church you know 39:50 Speaker 1 don't lie about stuff that can easily be corroborated or not corroborated i should say 39:55 Speaker 1 i mean that's the thing that gets most people in trouble the lie about shit that you can check 39:59 Speaker 1 you know so telling them where you're coming from is going to be easy to find out 40:02 Speaker 1 He came from the golf course at a couple beers in the cart. 40:05 Speaker 1 All right, suck it up. I take my medicine and you know, move on. 40:09 Speaker 1 Okay, so you couldn't stop by church afterwards and then be like, 40:11 Speaker 1 I want to work on the parking lot pulled out. 40:13 Speaker 1 Well, let's say you got it on camera. I pulled up the church. 40:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, we donated a big chunk to the church and now the pastor's like, yeah, Tony was here all day. 40:22 Speaker 1 You're hoping the lepers we have in the back. 40:25 Speaker 1 Yeah, we had a lot of people that need to be saved and I wanted to there with me and 40:28 Speaker 1 you might have, you know, a bunch of communion wine. We got it swapped out with the grape juice. 40:31 Speaker 1 We're going to have, we're going to bring up these three GTA voice smells like you said, 40:38 Speaker 1 if you don't want to get it on this, leave us a voicemail 404-800-05. 40:42 Speaker 1 Your best real life GTA moment. 40:45 Speaker 1 We listened to it two a day and then on Fridays, today's Monday, we have Mad Dog on and we go through them. 40:51 Speaker 1 And he'll pick the best and also tell us the legalities on it. 40:54 Speaker 1 So, here's the first one. 40:56 Speaker 1 Let me see I got all these EOS web cam utility thing pulled up because this fucking fucking camera 41:05 Speaker 1 Hey my name is Nick from Bay Ridge Brooklyn. I'm calling to leave a message for the GTA 41:11 Speaker 1 Story kind of the strange is in freak fishing 41:14 Speaker 1 about 2020 late in the year 41:17 Speaker 1 You and my buddy were driving and Brooklyn to go 41:21 Speaker 1 Smoke weed at Lulish J. Valentino here 41:24 Speaker 1 We're on the Guwannis and we're about to get off to Highway. 41:28 Speaker 1 A Dodge Charger like SRT screams right through, I guess like the medium lean, spins out, 41:35 Speaker 1 crashes headfirst into the side barrier and instinctively I go over it. 41:40 Speaker 1 I'm like, oh no, we gotta see what's up. 41:42 Speaker 1 Pull over in front of them. 41:44 Speaker 1 Get out and go off to them and ask them like, hey, hey, hey, like you guys are right, 41:48 Speaker 1 you help them. 41:49 Speaker 1 I was like, you need to ride the hospital something and they're like, like, no, we're 41:52 Speaker 1 good. 41:53 Speaker 1 And then anyway, I start jogging back to my car 41:57 Speaker 1 because again, on the side of the busy highway, 41:59 Speaker 1 guys, I actually go, hold on, hold on, give me a second. 42:02 Speaker 1 They go back to the car. 42:03 Speaker 1 Two guys grab a couple of double bags of the trunk 42:08 Speaker 1 and come running into the car. 42:09 Speaker 1 And like, where do you want me to take you? 42:10 Speaker 1 Like, you want me to get your hospital? 42:11 Speaker 1 And they're like, you're skipping your style. 42:12 Speaker 1 We broke it yourself the highway. 42:14 Speaker 1 So I go down, and I guess I'm thinking, 42:16 Speaker 1 like, Hamilton Avenue or something like that. 42:19 Speaker 1 And I got off the highway and like, 42:21 Speaker 1 I'm just definitely going to give some money. 42:24 Speaker 1 I'm like, you have some money, bro. 42:25 Speaker 1 I'm like, no, no, I'm good. 42:26 Speaker 1 Don't worry about it. 42:27 Speaker 1 One guy's killing over in the backseat screaming pain. 42:31 Speaker 1 And I got a little bit of moss. 42:33 Speaker 1 And they're like, oh, they're like, you're like, you're smoking. 42:38 Speaker 1 And I'm like, sure, guy opens the duffel bag. 42:41 Speaker 1 And there must be like 100 pounds a week. 42:44 Speaker 1 Not a pound, like 100 packs of like, 42:48 Speaker 1 we in there, he hands one. 42:49 Speaker 1 He's like, you want more? 42:49 Speaker 1 I'm like, no, we're good, bro. 42:50 Speaker 1 Good luck. 42:50 Speaker 1 look, they get out. Anyway, we go to the pier. We roll up the weed they give us. Smoke it. 42:57 Speaker 1 Doesn't feel really good. Not great. Get back on the highway going the other way home. 43:02 Speaker 1 And he got six seven cop cars like around the car later on. And I guess like looking back at it 43:12 Speaker 1 was definitely someone, definitely. And we later made me throw up. So definitely a strange experience. 43:19 Speaker 1 Anyway, bye. 43:21 Speaker 1 So this one was kind of like the one we had last week almost where the guy picked up the lady doing crack and everything 43:26 Speaker 1 He thought she was gonna get beat up and he's doing crack in the car and it's like what would they get pulled over and trouble? 43:30 Speaker 1 What is the like alleys of this if you saw someone on the side of the road or they just crash and the light man 43:35 Speaker 1 Can I get a ride are you legally allowed to like just let him get in your car and just like drive away with them? 43:39 Speaker 1 What's the legal issue if you want to let him in your car? That's one thing 43:42 Speaker 1 But at this point 43:44 Speaker 1 You've got to have some common sense to know if they're getting in there after major crash nobody wants this and screaming get us off the highway and they've got two giant duffel bags 43:52 Speaker 1 You could become an accessory after the fact or a party to the crime by assisting them and I 43:58 Speaker 1 Don't know if they stole somebody's marijuana or if there's a bunch of cash in the other bag and they're running from the cops, but 44:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not the smartest thing in the world plus you could get yourself hurt 44:07 Speaker 1 What would it be smarter to? 44:09 Speaker 1 Should it just took in the cash instead of the weed is there a legality difference in there if you take it 44:14 Speaker 1 I don't know stolen weed or stolen cash is one worse than the other 44:18 Speaker 1 Well the drugs are pretty much straight up on it 44:20 Speaker 1 So and if they gave you some cash you can say hey, they just give it to me as a good Samaritan 44:24 Speaker 1 But if somebody gives you pound of marijuana or whatever it was 44:28 Speaker 1 Obviously that's illegal in most states and I think it almost all 50s should be legal because that amount of weight 44:34 Speaker 1 You can't have for even for personal use 44:36 Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question though, Brandon. 44:39 Speaker 1 If you were the driver of that car and they offered you $500 or a pound of marijuana, which one are you taking? 44:50 Speaker 1 Oh, let's see. Well, pound of marijuana is going to come out. If you sell it at 10 a gram and you're looking at like $360. 44:58 Speaker 1 So yeah, probably go with the money because I don't even spoke weed anymore. 45:01 Speaker 1 What about a hundred bucks or pound of marijuana? 45:05 Speaker 1 Yeah, we could probably take the pound and resell it. 45:09 Speaker 1 Yes. 45:10 Speaker 1 See, Manny, this is what we're dealing with. 45:13 Speaker 1 The people like Brandon are the ones that pick 45:15 Speaker 1 in these people up. 45:16 Speaker 1 Of course, the guys in the front seat like, 45:18 Speaker 1 hey, you offered me 50 bucks, but we do the math real quick. 45:21 Speaker 1 Y'all take the weight. 45:22 Speaker 1 Like, but you don't know if it's good weed 45:24 Speaker 1 or any of those other issues. 45:26 Speaker 1 I mean, if it's linked, so confit and all or anything like that, 45:29 Speaker 1 somebody dies now, you've got a felony murder charge 45:32 Speaker 1 coming your way. 45:33 Speaker 1 Can weed be soaked in fentanyl? 45:35 Speaker 1 They mix it with stuff now as far as it goes to make it stronger. 45:38 Speaker 1 There. Who's selling that? I've never even heard of that. 45:41 Speaker 1 I hear about it as far as they're mixing shit up. I mean, the, the road sprays really 45:47 Speaker 1 huge in the prisons right now. That's doing some stuff, but they're 45:51 Speaker 1 essentially putting fiddle and everything. 45:54 Speaker 1 Brandon's going to talk to his, Brandon's going to talk to his, 45:56 Speaker 1 Brandon's going to talk to his drug. Do you have like, Hey man, don't give me 45:59 Speaker 1 all that fittin' old lace marijuana, man. I heard about that stuff. Okay. 46:02 Speaker 1 I only want a good green. 46:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, no, no, I started going to a white guy. 46:07 Speaker 1 You know, he's the other one's just starting to get sketchy to. 46:09 Speaker 1 Once you get to a certain age, you're like, you just grow out of the black drug dealers 46:12 Speaker 1 because it just gets too much, too risky. 46:13 Speaker 1 Is there too hot? 46:14 Speaker 1 And we get all our shit on the livery and whatnot. 46:16 Speaker 1 You know, it's all jokes. 46:17 Speaker 1 Everything right here. 46:18 Speaker 1 But the livery is the best. 46:21 Speaker 1 But it's not the Joro. 46:23 Speaker 1 It's the livery. 46:24 Speaker 1 All right. 46:25 Speaker 1 Yep, it's the second one. 46:28 Speaker 1 Good thing we got this claim, verse. 46:32 Speaker 1 So this isn't my story from my pop does play the game he loves you. 46:37 Speaker 1 This takes back, uh, please Magnum is one kind of having a stand. 46:41 Speaker 1 The guy is, uh, he stole his uncle's car for stuff. 46:45 Speaker 1 He drove it, crashed into a ditch, and then he went and 46:50 Speaker 1 gambled, bought a brand new one. 46:53 Speaker 1 And then it got stolen. 46:56 Speaker 1 And then he had to get it back. 46:58 Speaker 1 and it turns out it was some dude meeting you up from school who stole it. 47:03 Speaker 1 And I know I didn't mean my uncle was jumped in and then got his car back. 47:08 Speaker 1 And to this day my great uncle still doesn't know about it. 47:12 Speaker 1 And yeah. 47:15 Speaker 1 Yeah, this one was just crazy just for the fact that it was over an half 47:18 Speaker 1 Gana stand from what I could tell. 47:20 Speaker 1 I don't know this guy was like living over there and he brought his 47:22 Speaker 1 family or if he was like in the military, whatnot. 47:24 Speaker 1 but probably took his uncle's car, went out, 47:29 Speaker 1 took his uncle's car, went out, wrecked it, 47:31 Speaker 1 didn't let his uncle know, got enough money to buy another one 47:34 Speaker 1 because all of them are over there just fucking toy owners. 47:35 Speaker 1 They all look the fucking same. 47:36 Speaker 1 There's Toyota trucks. 47:38 Speaker 1 They get a new one, that car gets stolen, 47:39 Speaker 1 they find the guys beat them up and return the car. 47:42 Speaker 1 I don't know, have you ever done with any law or anything? 47:45 Speaker 1 Do you know anything about Afghanistan law? 47:47 Speaker 1 Or is it just like figured out yourself? 47:50 Speaker 1 I'm sure it's pretty severe convertible or used to, 47:52 Speaker 1 but it depends on what it was. 47:56 Speaker 1 I guess this might figure out yourself, 47:57 Speaker 1 the closest thing I know about Afghanistan stuff 47:59 Speaker 1 is I read the kite runner and that was pretty exciting. 48:02 Speaker 1 Do you know anything about Afghanistan law, Brandon? 48:05 Speaker 1 You know what? 48:06 Speaker 1 There's been a lot of questions you've asked Manny 48:08 Speaker 1 that I'd like, yeah, it's kind of weird, but I get it. 48:11 Speaker 1 Why would he know anything about Afghanistan law? 48:14 Speaker 1 Well, I don't know, it works with the Amigos and Mexico 48:16 Speaker 1 and they're in the Canadians and everything. 48:18 Speaker 1 I don't know if maybe they traded some stories 48:19 Speaker 1 about some kind of crazy shit-crafted Afghanistan. 48:22 Speaker 1 why would any afghanney 48:24 Speaker 1 have be represented by a mexican or canadian 48:27 Speaker 1 uh... i mean that's where they all go through is one of the port you know 48:30 Speaker 1 a lot of tears 48:32 Speaker 1 and i'm gonna have to know that 48:33 Speaker 1 and 48:34 Speaker 1 anyway well i don't understand the story so somebody stole the car 48:38 Speaker 1 you figured out who was beat him up and got your car back 48:41 Speaker 1 no no they they they they took his uh... his uncles car out 48:45 Speaker 1 uh... i don't know to go shoot terrorists or go i don't know what to do 48:49 Speaker 1 go find random bullets on the side of the road or guns their booby trap. I don't know what they were doing 48:53 Speaker 1 but car and ditch and then they're like oh shit we got to figure out you know we got to fix the car 48:59 Speaker 1 so they went and gambled enough to get I'm guessing these trucks are like I don't know $300 49:03 Speaker 1 they're all the same over there in the highlights just for the most part to go most they got 49:07 Speaker 1 another one and then the car got stolen again and then he brought it back to his uncle his uncle 49:13 Speaker 1 Michael still doesn't know about it. 49:14 Speaker 1 Apparently his uncle plays GTA. 49:16 Speaker 1 Guess he's hoping for a GTA 6 or GTA 7, 49:19 Speaker 1 Afghanistan version. 49:21 Speaker 1 I'll like and imagine it's him being like, 49:22 Speaker 1 Uncle Abdul, uncle Abdul, me and Mohammed 49:25 Speaker 1 are going to go find land mines. 49:27 Speaker 1 Can we use the truck this evening? 49:29 Speaker 1 And he's like, no, you cannot use the truck. 49:32 Speaker 1 No, no use truck, okay? 49:33 Speaker 1 This is the fourth truck that's been blown up this week 49:35 Speaker 1 by the United States, okay? 49:36 Speaker 1 You do not take this truck. 49:38 Speaker 1 And he's like, okay, uncle. 49:39 Speaker 1 And then he still took it anyway, which is funny. 49:42 Speaker 1 but so they brought a new guy to it. 49:45 Speaker 1 It's the same color and uncle had no idea 49:48 Speaker 1 that it's a different truck altogether. 49:50 Speaker 1 Manny, you were in the military. 49:51 Speaker 1 You know what they look like over there. 49:52 Speaker 1 Everybody's got that stupid toy owner pickup. 49:54 Speaker 1 No, I get all that, but what about the shit that's in it? 49:57 Speaker 1 I think that's it. 49:58 Speaker 1 It's like was the 50 Cal mounted to the back the same 50:01 Speaker 1 as the one that he loves. 50:03 Speaker 1 A little moral. 50:04 Speaker 1 I think everyone over there 50:04 Speaker 1 cares his same shit in their truck. 50:05 Speaker 1 Just like camel cigarettes, a goat. 50:07 Speaker 1 It's happening. 50:08 Speaker 1 It's happening. 50:10 Speaker 1 It's about all they need. 50:11 Speaker 1 a lot of puppy seeds. Yeah, obviously. I love that. All right. We got one more here and 50:17 Speaker 1 well, Manny, pick his favorite. Here we go. All right, guys. I got a story for you. 50:24 Speaker 1 Being my cousin, we both worked at the same company. We got reigned out one day. We both like to drink 50:29 Speaker 1 whiskey. So we went to the liquor store. We each got a fifth of brown oil and we can continue 50:36 Speaker 1 our way home. And then I decided I'd go out and just hang the bidet with them. So we went to the 50:40 Speaker 1 the bar over in Joliet, Illinois. 50:43 Speaker 1 And we talked to Bartender and giving us the keys. 50:46 Speaker 1 We were brand new Mustang. 50:48 Speaker 1 And we took it out of Joy Reidin. 50:50 Speaker 1 And we were like right by the bar, 50:53 Speaker 1 Kitty Corner from his grandma's house. 50:55 Speaker 1 She was in the same neighborhood. 50:56 Speaker 1 And he's like, Zach, do you think this thing's gotta be eight? 51:00 Speaker 1 I said, I don't know. 51:00 Speaker 1 Just stop and break torque it or just wrap on. 51:04 Speaker 1 And if it spins out, it's probably gotta be eight in it. 51:06 Speaker 1 So he did that. 51:07 Speaker 1 And mind you guys, it was a little snowy outside. 51:10 Speaker 1 We lost control, and then we crashed into two part cars. 51:14 Speaker 1 And he's like, well, Zach, run. 51:17 Speaker 1 So I just got out and I started running. 51:19 Speaker 1 And I guess the cops were right behind us. 51:22 Speaker 1 So we run down to the end of the dead end road, 51:24 Speaker 1 and we run down through the woods 51:25 Speaker 1 and along the railroad tracks. 51:27 Speaker 1 And as we were running, we called this sister up 51:31 Speaker 1 and told us to meet us at a certain location 51:33 Speaker 1 and to pick us up. 51:34 Speaker 1 And when we got there, she was sitting there waiting. 51:37 Speaker 1 And then we just continued on. 51:40 Speaker 1 And it got even crazier than that later on in the day. 51:44 Speaker 1 We found like a old break and have shotgun. 51:47 Speaker 1 And his sister was having a party. 51:49 Speaker 1 So I went over there and busted him a door. 51:51 Speaker 1 Like, went in there with a little gun and fucking 51:54 Speaker 1 was waving around and freaked everybody out. 51:56 Speaker 1 He wouldn't wolder or nothing. 51:57 Speaker 1 But it's so freaked everybody out. 52:00 Speaker 1 And then later on in the night, we went back to his house 52:03 Speaker 1 and continued drinking even more. 52:04 Speaker 1 And I think I called this girlfriend like a conner something like that. 52:08 Speaker 1 And they beat the fuck out of me with a broken off table leg with a screw in it. 52:13 Speaker 1 And I just remember waking up wandering around outside. 52:16 Speaker 1 And the police were like, what's wrong with you? 52:19 Speaker 1 I mean, even drinking. 52:21 Speaker 1 I said, I got beat up. 52:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been drinking too. 52:23 Speaker 1 But I got beat up. 52:24 Speaker 1 I don't know where I'm at. 52:25 Speaker 1 And they said, all right, come with us. 52:26 Speaker 1 And they took me over to the police station 52:29 Speaker 1 and put me inside the police station. 52:31 Speaker 1 And let me sleep there until my dad came. 52:34 Speaker 1 And then once my dad got three took me home. 52:36 Speaker 1 And that's pretty much a story. 52:37 Speaker 1 I got some other crazy ones who, 52:38 Speaker 1 if you guys wanna know, let me know later. 52:41 Speaker 1 This is like the epitome of just you and your buddy 52:43 Speaker 1 just working at the same job and you get a day off 52:45 Speaker 1 and you're just like, we're gonna make the most of it. 52:47 Speaker 1 Get hammered, wreck the bartender's car, 52:50 Speaker 1 have a sister pick us up, run from the cop, 52:51 Speaker 1 find a shotgun, go scare your sister and her friends in there. 52:54 Speaker 1 He's like, what, load her in there. 52:55 Speaker 1 I just pointed it out of him. 52:56 Speaker 1 Then he get beat up with a fucking table lay 52:59 Speaker 1 with a screw in it because you call it 53:00 Speaker 1 your buddy's girlfriend a cunt. 53:02 Speaker 1 And then you get to sleep it off in the police station. 53:05 Speaker 1 She got hit by a table living this crew and it did be some real damage out there. 53:09 Speaker 1 So I, I questioned that in the same thing. 53:12 Speaker 1 What kind of, you know, 53:13 Speaker 1 but he's a wood that's got screw in it. 53:16 Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not. 53:17 Speaker 1 Get my bob water and stuff before really tears up your skin pretty bad. 53:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, you do it a little bleed, but you're not going to die. 53:24 Speaker 1 And there's be a little puncture wound. 53:26 Speaker 1 I know it's a lot of tetanus shots and stuff, but what kind of bar 53:30 Speaker 1 with you have the keys to your brand new car. 53:34 Speaker 1 And then when you crash it, you run. 53:36 Speaker 1 Well, they're gonna run the tag. 53:37 Speaker 1 It's gonna come like the bartender. 53:39 Speaker 1 The bartender's gonna say these two idiots 53:40 Speaker 1 took my car, they'd be arrested next day. 53:43 Speaker 1 So, the story's lacking a little something. 53:46 Speaker 1 It's a wild night, man. 53:48 Speaker 1 It's a wild night. 53:49 Speaker 1 It sounds like fuck. 53:50 Speaker 1 But it's probably the best story 53:51 Speaker 1 out of the three I'd have to say. 53:53 Speaker 1 It's, well, before you make your decision, 53:55 Speaker 1 I would say they're probably like in a city like Gotham, 53:58 Speaker 1 and this lady probably has like, 53:59 Speaker 1 I don't know, Warren or something like that. 54:00 Speaker 1 She's working at a bar and I don't know. 54:02 Speaker 1 She's just got a Mustang, she's just better everything on it. 54:05 Speaker 1 I don't know how it all plays out, 54:06 Speaker 1 but I could definitely see one of these small town countries, 54:10 Speaker 1 or small town cities, they're just like, 54:12 Speaker 1 yeah, you know, it's all right, 54:14 Speaker 1 insurance will cover it. 54:16 Speaker 1 Well, yeah, and I think you also 54:17 Speaker 1 are gonna think about, like they said this is out, 54:19 Speaker 1 is this the jolly at one or it's out of like Indiana 54:21 Speaker 1 or something? 54:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they should. 54:23 Speaker 1 So small town, there's a good chance they knew this bartender 54:27 Speaker 1 and like maybe they went to high school together 54:28 Speaker 1 something and she's like, yeah, Brandon, you and def august can take my car. Well, Brandon 54:33 Speaker 1 and def august wreck her car. She's not going to turn Brandon and def august in. She's going 54:37 Speaker 1 to call her insurance company and say somebody stole it, right? So I mean, you're committing 54:42 Speaker 1 another crime, which is a felony, but I mean, she's a bartender that let somebody borrow 54:46 Speaker 1 her brand new Mustang. I mean, she's not the brightest bulb in the box, you know, I 54:50 Speaker 1 plus you came in and drunk off a fifth and then you drank some work the bar and you're 54:54 Speaker 1 like, hey, let me have your car keys. 54:56 Speaker 1 So I find that a little questionable. 54:59 Speaker 1 Like, Manny doesn't have low, 55:01 Speaker 1 lows like morals. 55:02 Speaker 1 Like, Manny's like, I can't believe somebody would do that. 55:05 Speaker 1 I mean, I knew. 55:06 Speaker 1 You're a Chuck, really ask you, 55:07 Speaker 1 if somebody came up to you that you sort of kind of know 55:10 Speaker 1 and say, hey, you have an older part. 55:13 Speaker 1 Can I just take your older car? 55:15 Speaker 1 You're like, hell no. 55:16 Speaker 1 Wait, am I 25 or am I 30 years ago? 55:19 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to hell hell man. 55:21 Speaker 1 25 years ago, dude, you're getting the keys 55:23 Speaker 1 to whatever I got. 55:24 Speaker 1 You don't have to be talking. 55:26 Speaker 1 You don't know. 55:28 Speaker 1 Just take my car, right? 55:29 Speaker 1 It's all right. 55:30 Speaker 1 Girls, girls I would. 55:31 Speaker 1 If I was a bartender when I was like 23, 24, and a group of girls came in and they were like, 55:36 Speaker 1 oh my gosh, can we borrow your car? 55:38 Speaker 1 Like, yeah, don't even worry about filling it up. 55:41 Speaker 1 You know, I mean, that's just, I don't know. 55:44 Speaker 1 You're dumb. 55:44 Speaker 1 You're young and dumb. 55:46 Speaker 1 You know, you do stupid things. 55:46 Speaker 1 So I can see it happening. 55:48 Speaker 1 I hate to say it. 55:49 Speaker 1 This is maybe path is bad because I should have had ever had. 55:53 Speaker 1 I'm gonna live better because that's that give you a ride because everybody's trying to get laid but 55:57 Speaker 1 I'd say I'll give you a ride we're taking my car because if they do something to it you're on the hook for 56:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you know what happens so um, all right 56:07 Speaker 1 I actually I had a friend wreck my car drunk on Christmas even the bj parking lot ran into a concrete pole didn't tell me for two weeks 56:13 Speaker 1 Had it towed home didn't get trouble 56:15 Speaker 1 And they still always be $600 and that was fucking 56:19 Speaker 1 Five years ago so it happened. I'll tell you that right now 56:22 Speaker 1 Uh, man, go ahead and pick your favor out of the top three. 56:26 Speaker 1 I didn't even understand the second one. 56:28 Speaker 1 I've got to understand, but the last one sounds like the best one. 56:32 Speaker 1 The whole thing with some money for a car and I dropped them off and that was it. 56:36 Speaker 1 Whatever. I'll go with number three. 56:41 Speaker 1 All right. Uh, if that was you hit me up on Instagram or the clues to on Facebook. 56:46 Speaker 1 And we will get you your GTA six cap. Uh, yeah, it's, uh, that was good. 56:51 Speaker 1 We'll have some more playing this week. 56:52 Speaker 1 I saw a lot coming through over the weekend. 56:54 Speaker 1 We're gonna change the, 56:56 Speaker 1 change up the prompt a little bit, starting tomorrow. 56:59 Speaker 1 So yeah, it would be good. 57:01 Speaker 1 Mad dog, is there anything else you wanna talk about? 57:03 Speaker 1 Anything, we still don't know about Big B yet. 57:06 Speaker 1 We still don't know her situation on 57:07 Speaker 1 if she passed the bar. 57:08 Speaker 1 Wouldn't you say that was August or September? 57:11 Speaker 1 Bill of the October. 57:12 Speaker 1 Oh, October is when the results come back. 57:15 Speaker 1 I think she's in Europe, 57:16 Speaker 1 vacation with her husband for a couple weeks, 57:18 Speaker 1 which will be at work at the end of the month, 57:21 Speaker 1 just so she can get talks from two and a half months 57:24 Speaker 1 of nothing but bar setting. 57:26 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, and bar drinking probably too. 57:28 Speaker 1 But what, real quick, how was it with you 57:31 Speaker 1 when you first took the bar exam in your weight? 57:33 Speaker 1 Was it always just long of a process? 57:34 Speaker 1 And if so, what were you just thinking 57:36 Speaker 1 like the next couple weeks, months or whatever? 57:38 Speaker 1 You were just like anxious all the time, 57:39 Speaker 1 or you're just like, whatever it is, what it is. 57:43 Speaker 1 Well, this was actually 1994 back then, 57:46 Speaker 1 you could take the bar exam before you graduated from college. 57:50 Speaker 1 So you graduated from law school in May. 57:52 Speaker 1 You could take the bar exam in February. 57:54 Speaker 1 So you're going to class, you're working, 57:56 Speaker 1 and you're studying for the bar. 57:58 Speaker 1 Somehow I managed to do it these days, the kids are like, 58:01 Speaker 1 oh my God, it's so much studying over the summer 58:03 Speaker 1 to take it. 58:04 Speaker 1 That's all they do and they overstressed about it. 58:06 Speaker 1 But I ended up getting my results at the end of April, 58:11 Speaker 1 but back then we didn't have internet and all that stuff. 58:13 Speaker 1 So you'd have to go to the courthouse 58:16 Speaker 1 or read the plan of journal. 58:17 Speaker 1 What's that? 58:18 Speaker 1 Was it the pony express that brought it to you? 58:20 Speaker 1 Yeah. 58:21 Speaker 1 Well, you get it in the mail, but they also print out the results 58:25 Speaker 1 that day. 58:26 Speaker 1 It's usually on Friday that they would come out back then. 58:28 Speaker 1 And the agency would print it out. 58:30 Speaker 1 And then all the courthouses would have a list of everybody 58:32 Speaker 1 that passed, posted in the courthouse hallway. 58:35 Speaker 1 So I was working at a restaurant called 58:38 Speaker 1 Daimons, the place for ribs. 58:40 Speaker 1 It was down at underground. 58:41 Speaker 1 When underground was still a little bit of a thing, 58:43 Speaker 1 there was a hooters and some other stuff. 58:45 Speaker 1 It's working at Damon's waiting tables. 58:48 Speaker 1 And the assistant manager came out and says, 58:50 Speaker 1 hey, you passed. 58:51 Speaker 1 I didn't know exactly when the results were going to come up, 58:54 Speaker 1 but he saw it in the newspaper. 58:57 Speaker 1 It came out of work my shift and they're quick. 58:59 Speaker 1 And that was the end of it. 59:01 Speaker 1 I'm surprised they didn't tell you the end of the shift. 59:02 Speaker 1 But good job. 59:04 Speaker 1 Amanda Barr. 59:05 Speaker 1 But you passed. 59:06 Speaker 1 So I guess you're not coming out. 59:08 Speaker 1 Not coming back. 59:09 Speaker 1 Well, I mean, you know, it's just one of those things. 59:10 Speaker 1 It's almost the end of school. 59:12 Speaker 1 And I was going into the service. 59:13 Speaker 1 So I didn't have much time. 59:15 Speaker 1 You know, that was not, it was my last shift. 59:17 Speaker 1 And it was just great news. 59:19 Speaker 1 Did you know how to feel about it? 59:20 Speaker 1 Like, okay, I guess check that box now. 59:24 Speaker 1 Get the work. 59:25 Speaker 1 And, you know, that's what I did. 59:27 Speaker 1 Last week of May, 59:29 Speaker 1 we graduated on a Friday, last week of May. 59:32 Speaker 1 And my first day was that next Monday 59:34 Speaker 1 in Charleston Air Force Base. 59:35 Speaker 1 I was supposed to go to San Francisco 59:37 Speaker 1 at B-Lare Force Base. 59:39 Speaker 1 And lastly, they changed it up 59:41 Speaker 1 and said, now you're going to Charleston. 59:42 Speaker 1 I packed up my Dodge S-Corp GT with the sweet louvers on the back and I could fit everything 59:48 Speaker 1 in there except my bed so I just left the bed at the apartment and moved into military housing. 59:54 Speaker 1 The following Monday and showed up for work, graduated and drank a little too much and the Friday 59:59 Speaker 1 we graduated and that was that. I like moved on. No stress, no fuss, nothing really to 1:00:05 Speaker 1 celebrate except great. My biggest fear was if I failed the look of my mother's face would be just 1:00:10 Speaker 1 you've embarrassed the family or something. So that was the biggest pressure and some ethnic 1:00:15 Speaker 1 communities. It's kind of a huge deal. Yeah, would you have been shunned like kicked out of the 1:00:20 Speaker 1 family if you wouldn't have passed? No, that wouldn't have happened, but I would have never 1:00:24 Speaker 1 not heard about for the rest of my life. Oh, yeah, 30 years later. But remember when you took that 1:00:29 Speaker 1 test and you failed it, I still, still don't know. I still did this thing with Mother Colle, 1:00:33 Speaker 1 I realized a question, some medical questions. You do know good criminal life is what do they teach you 1:00:37 Speaker 1 that law school. You don't know anything about anything. What do they do? So I still get that. 1:00:42 Speaker 1 But, you know, that's like a good call when we have lawsuits in shit. You're like, 1:00:46 Speaker 1 guys, I do criminal trials. Okay. What do you keep calling me about lawsuits? But I know I know, 1:00:50 Speaker 1 but we don't know anybody else. So just bear with us here. I know something about lawsuits 1:00:54 Speaker 1 be gained. I just don't know anything about Afghan law. So I'll put that on record. If it's 1:00:59 Speaker 1 Middle Eastern law, I don't know what you're about it. Well, I'm Nani. I will say I know we got 1:01:03 Speaker 1 We got to get out of here soon, but I got to tell you what happened yesterday. 1:01:07 Speaker 1 My aunt 84 years old was crossing the street in Fort Pain, Alabama. 1:01:11 Speaker 1 She was struck by a car with a young driver that was her texting while she was driving. 1:01:18 Speaker 1 My aunt had a walk sign. 1:01:19 Speaker 1 She actually had to get airlifted to Chattanooga. 1:01:22 Speaker 1 She's there now. 1:01:23 Speaker 1 She had to have hip surgery. 1:01:24 Speaker 1 She got a broken back. 1:01:25 Speaker 1 She got all this stuff. 1:01:26 Speaker 1 I, obviously, when we talked on the phone, said, did you call an attorney? 1:01:32 Speaker 1 Right? 1:01:33 Speaker 1 It's called attorney, right? 1:01:34 Speaker 1 Just call me and I'll take care of it 1:01:36 Speaker 1 for the Mitzen chat nougat, Tennessee. 1:01:38 Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it happened in Fort Pain, Alabama, 1:01:41 Speaker 1 but it's in Chattanooga where she is now at the hospital. 1:01:45 Speaker 1 Oh yeah, because that's just across the border. 1:01:47 Speaker 1 I've got some people up in that area. 1:01:48 Speaker 1 Just call me on make sure she gets taken care of the man. 1:01:52 Speaker 1 And just hope this person had insurance 1:01:54 Speaker 1 that we got worse thing otherwise. 1:01:56 Speaker 1 Okay, I hope. 1:01:58 Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, that's exciting. 1:01:59 Speaker 1 We'll see what happens with more Chuck's family 1:02:01 Speaker 1 Alabama said. What's up with your grandmother? Whatever. She's living in Pittsburgh with my sister 1:02:08 Speaker 1 right now and she every time we see her, she says, I'm never traveling again. I'm 95 and 1:02:14 Speaker 1 hospice said I've only got a few months to live. And then a week later, she's like, hey, I just 1:02:18 Speaker 1 landed in Orlando. We're going to Disney World today with the grandkids and I'm like, what is going 1:02:24 Speaker 1 on? I mean, she's just, I don't know, dude. I mean, she's been on hospice. I can't believe they're 1:02:28 Speaker 1 to let her do it. 1:02:29 Speaker 1 She's been a hospice for like two years. 1:02:31 Speaker 1 Well, she priest comes and sees her every month 1:02:34 Speaker 1 to like, you know, save her soul. 1:02:36 Speaker 1 And it's kind of the point now where the priest 1:02:37 Speaker 1 is canceling on her. 1:02:39 Speaker 1 And he's like, hey, 1:02:40 Speaker 1 I just, how many times need to be saved, don't you just do 1:02:43 Speaker 1 like one time in your game? 1:02:43 Speaker 1 Well, hospice sends them every, 1:02:45 Speaker 1 it's part of the deal with hospice 1:02:47 Speaker 1 that you get the priest every month. 1:02:49 Speaker 1 But my grandma has now been on hospice so long, 1:02:52 Speaker 1 the priest is like pushing it. 1:02:53 Speaker 1 He's like, hey, I'll just see you next month. 1:02:55 Speaker 1 And she's like, okay. 1:02:57 Speaker 1 So I mean, that's how you know you've made it. 1:02:58 Speaker 1 Well, you know, it's sketchy about this whole situation 1:03:01 Speaker 1 as member she was on all those medicines and heart medicines 1:03:05 Speaker 1 and whatnot and she stopped taking those two years ago 1:03:07 Speaker 1 and like she's still fine. 1:03:08 Speaker 1 So it's kind of like, 1:03:09 Speaker 1 and does she really need those medicines back in the day 1:03:11 Speaker 1 or why were they getting us? 1:03:12 Speaker 1 The only thing that it did when she stopped taking all the meds 1:03:14 Speaker 1 was she said it makes her pee more. 1:03:17 Speaker 1 No, that's not bad. 1:03:17 Speaker 1 Okay, that's not a good job. 1:03:19 Speaker 1 So what happened to Michigan 1:03:21 Speaker 1 did you fight the neighbor or is that done? 1:03:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we went in. 1:03:24 Speaker 1 We went in for the final hearing 1:03:25 Speaker 1 And the judge looked at us and he said, you know what? 1:03:28 Speaker 1 Here's what we're going to do. 1:03:29 Speaker 1 He said, I'm not going to let either one of you win 1:03:31 Speaker 1 unless you both retain attorneys again. 1:03:36 Speaker 1 So you're both going to have to spend the money 1:03:39 Speaker 1 and then we'll get to the bottom of it. 1:03:40 Speaker 1 Or I'll give you 10 minutes and you guys can come to a deal 1:03:44 Speaker 1 and we'll just get this thing over with. 1:03:45 Speaker 1 So me and the guy walked outside and I said, 1:03:46 Speaker 1 look dude, I already spent $30,000 with my attorney. 1:03:50 Speaker 1 I fired him. 1:03:51 Speaker 1 If we get attorneys, I'm going to have to go in 1:03:53 Speaker 1 on this thing another 30 K, but you're gonna have to go in 1:03:56 Speaker 1 for 30 K. And he's like, all right, I won't build the road. 1:04:00 Speaker 1 Oh my gosh, he's so crazy. 1:04:01 Speaker 1 Like, dude, these attorneys couldn't do this. 1:04:03 Speaker 1 Like, why this is the first time I've ever talked 1:04:05 Speaker 1 to this dude. 1:04:06 Speaker 1 We had a deal ironed out in 10 minutes during a recess. 1:04:10 Speaker 1 Well, the problem is when you have lawyers, 1:04:11 Speaker 1 you can't talk to the clients against the rules. 1:04:13 Speaker 1 And so it didn't seem like he was that reasonable 1:04:17 Speaker 1 until Robert met the road kind of thing. 1:04:19 Speaker 1 He sounded like he was being a pretty big dick. 1:04:21 Speaker 1 Remember when we talked about it a lot? 1:04:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, I like how Chuck got the deal done. He's like we got seven minutes. You want to throw the football around we still got 1:04:29 Speaker 1 After he sued you though remember that this was this was after he sued me so he dropped everything 1:04:34 Speaker 1 And it wasn't really suing he was suing me on behalf of our old show 1:04:38 Speaker 1 So I was just kidding. I was the one getting roped into Brandon's idiocracy that I wasn't even a part of yes 1:04:44 Speaker 1 You said names and you made phone calls on air and you guys got me in so much trouble with your antics 1:04:51 Speaker 1 Hey, I want the hoax, man. 1:04:53 Speaker 1 I couldn't handle none of that, all right? 1:04:54 Speaker 1 Yeah, okay. 1:04:55 Speaker 1 Well, either way, so after that happened, I freaking, 1:04:58 Speaker 1 I was like, look, dude, let's just put this behind us, man. 1:05:00 Speaker 1 It's over. 1:05:01 Speaker 1 I'm going to sell this house. 1:05:01 Speaker 1 I'm out of here. 1:05:02 Speaker 1 Like we don't, we don't ever have to see each other again. 1:05:04 Speaker 1 And it worked out. 1:05:05 Speaker 1 And I mean, I sold the house immediately. 1:05:08 Speaker 1 And I will never go back to Michigan until obviously my 1:05:11 Speaker 1 grandmother when she passes away in 30 years. 1:05:13 Speaker 1 I'll obviously go up there to bury her, but that's it. 1:05:15 Speaker 1 I'm never going back. 1:05:17 Speaker 1 I want part two. 1:05:18 Speaker 1 I want to find the guy that bought the house 1:05:20 Speaker 1 and see if they built the road or he's like, 1:05:22 Speaker 1 I can't even, I'm never gonna let that guy know 1:05:25 Speaker 1 where I live because he is so pissed. 1:05:27 Speaker 1 He's gotta be so pissed right now. 1:05:29 Speaker 1 Cause he asked me all kinds of questions like, 1:05:31 Speaker 1 hey, does he care if we shoot guns over here? 1:05:33 Speaker 1 And I was like, no, dude, he loves it. 1:05:34 Speaker 1 Like he shoots, he's a big shooter. 1:05:37 Speaker 1 That dude hates it. 1:05:38 Speaker 1 He's about to know if that go over there, 1:05:40 Speaker 1 brings you a chainsaw, do not accept it. 1:05:42 Speaker 1 Do not accept it at all. 1:05:43 Speaker 1 He's gonna blow up. 1:05:45 Speaker 1 That was the plan, remember? 1:05:46 Speaker 1 I'm not that we had that plan. 1:05:48 Speaker 1 my uncle had a plan. Crazy uncle. Yeah. So. All right. Cool. Uh, we're going to get 1:05:52 Speaker 1 out here. You're going to hear a Mad Dog Mani's first interview with a very high profile 1:05:56 Speaker 1 attorney as well. And like I said, she's in the news and everything right now with her 1:06:00 Speaker 1 current case. Uh, Mad Dog, you got anything to add onto that before we get on out here? 1:06:04 Speaker 1 Nope. Just tell the folks if they watch it, give us lots of feedback. So I can turn 1:06:08 Speaker 1 a do a better job depending on what people are looking for. I just find it interesting. So 1:06:12 Speaker 1 I thought I'd do that. Oh, the people will criticize you. Don't worry. I'm sure you're 1:06:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we're good on here. Yeah, look at the bright side, Manny. It's always gonna be better than crazy marks podcast 1:06:22 Speaker 1 So don't worry about it. You're gonna be just fine. Well, I want to know I've made it when I get a big head meme behind you 1:06:27 Speaker 1 I got crazy mark back there and you've got some of the other guys. Yeah, why don't I have you yet? 1:06:32 Speaker 1 That's weird if anybody listening right now. Hoh Jai 1:06:36 Speaker 1 Give me a create or give me a mania roar a big head. Yeah, there we go 1:06:40 Speaker 1 All right, sounds good. We appreciate it. Here's mad dog. Manny's first ever solo podcast interview. All right 1:06:45 Speaker 1 We'll see you tomorrow. 1:06:46 Speaker 1 But this is attorney Kathy Nestor 1:06:48 Speaker 1 that I've had the pleasure to talk to. 1:06:49 Speaker 1 She's a very famous lawyer out of Utah 1:06:52 Speaker 1 and has handled a couple of the biggest cases 1:06:54 Speaker 1 that are currently in the news. 1:06:56 Speaker 1 She can't talk about her most famous case, 1:06:59 Speaker 1 which is going on right now, 1:07:00 Speaker 1 which involves the shooting of a certain individual 1:07:02 Speaker 1 in Utah, a few months back 1:07:05 Speaker 1 that the nation has been mesmerized about. 1:07:07 Speaker 1 But we are gonna talk about the case 1:07:09 Speaker 1 she just finished where there was a verdict 1:07:11 Speaker 1 back in May of this year. 1:07:12 Speaker 1 And Kathy, will you tell us a little bit about that defendant? 1:07:17 Speaker 1 How you got in homes and sort of like, 1:07:20 Speaker 1 so update everybody and what's going on? 1:07:24 Speaker 1 Sure. So hi, Manny. It's nice to see you. 1:07:27 Speaker 1 Thanks for asking me to chat with you today. 1:07:31 Speaker 1 I was asked by my law partner who Wendy Lewis, 1:07:36 Speaker 1 Wendy Lewis. If I would be willing to get into Ms. Richon's case, she is a woman from just outside 1:07:48 Speaker 1 the Park City Utah area in a really small town, not far from Park City, and she was charged and 1:07:57 Speaker 1 accused with killing her husband. 1:08:00 Speaker 1 And my law partner got a call asking if our firm would 1:08:06 Speaker 1 take on the representation of Ms. Richards. 1:08:09 Speaker 1 We were appointed by the county and paid by the county. 1:08:14 Speaker 1 And we were a private law firm. 1:08:17 Speaker 1 We have our own law firm. 1:08:18 Speaker 1 But occasionally, we do accept appointments on homicide 1:08:24 Speaker 1 cases. 1:08:25 Speaker 1 And that was how we got involved in the case. 1:08:28 Speaker 1 Well, you're thinking you've been very kind. 1:08:30 Speaker 1 I mean, the judges call you on these high profile, 1:08:33 Speaker 1 high in cases. 1:08:33 Speaker 1 And so the defendant was Corey Richards. 1:08:36 Speaker 1 And I guess anybody can look it up online 1:08:39 Speaker 1 and see a lot of the stories and such. 1:08:41 Speaker 1 And I guess the primary issue was the Fentanyl overdose. 1:08:45 Speaker 1 And it was done for money because she was in debt. 1:08:47 Speaker 1 So it seems like a lot of these people had a ton of money. 1:08:51 Speaker 1 So it kind of sort of walked us through it once you got 1:08:54 Speaker 1 pointed to the case. What exactly happened sort of what was the background of the allegations? 1:09:00 Speaker 1 And then we'll pick it up from there. 1:09:03 Speaker 1 So when we first got on the case, we knew that it had already been going on about a year. 1:09:10 Speaker 1 There was another law firm that had represented Ms. Richards that she had actually retained herself. 1:09:16 Speaker 1 And they moved to withdraw from the case, which is what led to our appointment. She no longer 1:09:23 Speaker 1 had the financial capability to hire her own lawyer at that point. So that's when we were 1:09:27 Speaker 1 brought in. So we were brought in the case had been going for some time. It was, we knew it was 1:09:33 Speaker 1 very high profile. We knew it was being watched by a lot of people that were interested in the case. 1:09:40 Speaker 1 And we agreed to jump in and it was, we were trying to prepare for preliminary hearings. 1:09:47 Speaker 1 That had not happened yet. And the first thing we noticed when we got in the case was, there was 1:09:52 Speaker 1 is I want to say 12 terabytes of discovery, which is just our word for the evidence that 1:10:00 Speaker 1 the state had that they were planning to use some or all of that trial. So we had to be 1:10:06 Speaker 1 familiar with all of that. And that took some time. I mean, it takes, it's hard to describe 1:10:12 Speaker 1 how much materials is contained in 12 terabytes of information. But needless to say, it's 1:10:20 Speaker 1 hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands of pages and hours and hours of videos and 1:10:28 Speaker 1 this investigation had been going on for two years at the point that we got in and 1:10:34 Speaker 1 the state had subpoenaed every 1:10:38 Speaker 1 business entity 1:10:40 Speaker 1 company that she had ever had anything to do with and like the last 20 years, I kid you not. 1:10:46 Speaker 1 So we had just mountains of evidence to familiarize ourselves with and to get to know the case. 1:10:56 Speaker 1 We also had hundreds and hundreds of witnesses in the case potential witnesses that we had to interview get to know investigate. 1:11:07 Speaker 1 So it took a good deal of time before the case got teed up and ready to go for trial. 1:11:13 Speaker 1 So it sounds like the typical, I mean, 1:11:15 Speaker 1 me being a defense lawyer as well. 1:11:16 Speaker 1 It sounds like one of those typical, 1:11:18 Speaker 1 they dump everything on you. 1:11:20 Speaker 1 There's some hidden gems in there. 1:11:22 Speaker 1 And then you give a witness list. 1:11:24 Speaker 1 That's like the phone book. 1:11:25 Speaker 1 And figure it out. 1:11:27 Speaker 1 Yes, that's the thing. 1:11:28 Speaker 1 What I've read, 1:11:31 Speaker 1 she was apparently having an affair. 1:11:34 Speaker 1 There were some financial problems 1:11:35 Speaker 1 that her business was having. 1:11:36 Speaker 1 And then she's accused of trying to poison her husband 1:11:39 Speaker 1 on more than one occasion. 1:11:41 Speaker 1 Can you kind of walk us through what the government's theory was? 1:11:44 Speaker 1 Because obviously all that stuff is super-solacious 1:11:46 Speaker 1 and that's why Core TV covered it. 1:11:48 Speaker 1 And it was quite the extravaganza 1:11:50 Speaker 1 for the time to travel in on. 1:11:53 Speaker 1 Well, that's the problem. 1:11:54 Speaker 1 I mean, they focused on the salaciousness of it. 1:11:56 Speaker 1 And there was very little evidence. 1:11:59 Speaker 1 So this is your classic circumstantial evidence case. 1:12:04 Speaker 1 And I know that you're really, 1:12:08 Speaker 1 your this this interview is kind of geared towards people who are in the legal community and understand 1:12:16 Speaker 1 legal terminology. But I mean a circumstantial evidence case means there's no confessions, 1:12:22 Speaker 1 there's no direct evidence linking my client to you know a murder weapon or you know something 1:12:30 Speaker 1 like that. So really what the state had to do was put on a circumstantial evidence case that 1:12:38 Speaker 1 relied really heavily on whether she had motive to kill him because she was the only people 1:12:46 Speaker 1 in the house the night that he passed were her and her three sons and her husband. So they definitely 1:12:54 Speaker 1 tried to argue the case that, well, you know, she had motive and opportunity. 1:13:01 Speaker 1 But there was no direct to evidence of the other murder. So they spent a great deal of time 1:13:09 Speaker 1 developing, you know, why she would want to kill him or reasons she would have to kill him 1:13:15 Speaker 1 since they couldn't really prove she did kill him. 1:13:18 Speaker 1 So circumstantial cases sometimes I would think are even tougher because it's all speculation 1:13:24 Speaker 1 and sort of rumored innuendo. 1:13:26 Speaker 1 So how do you battle what the average person, you know, when they see it, even if they're 1:13:31 Speaker 1 not lawyers and you know, maybe a lot of non-wears will see this, is saying, well, she 1:13:35 Speaker 1 was having an affair. 1:13:37 Speaker 1 Her business was in trouble, which I don't know why the husband would know about that. 1:13:41 Speaker 1 And then there's a big insurance policy. 1:13:43 Speaker 1 It seems like a classic lifetime movie kind of scenario. 1:13:47 Speaker 1 how do you get around that? Because obviously it sounds pretty damning on its face. 1:13:52 Speaker 1 Well, there's, you know, I think that when you have the benefit of hindsight and you look backwards 1:14:02 Speaker 1 and you have a theory of what you think happened, then what the prosecution did is look backwards 1:14:08 Speaker 1 in their marriage and try to bend, you know, this story of a normal human everyday marriage 1:14:16 Speaker 1 into some evil motive, right? 1:14:20 Speaker 1 And we just didn't believe that that was the case. 1:14:24 Speaker 1 You know, no marriage is perfect. 1:14:26 Speaker 1 I think if anybody looks into any marriage long enough, 1:14:29 Speaker 1 they're gonna come up with some kind of motive 1:14:30 Speaker 1 to kill this spouse. 1:14:33 Speaker 1 If they look hard enough and long enough, 1:14:36 Speaker 1 but that doesn't mean she did kill her spouse. 1:14:39 Speaker 1 And so we really tried to focus on the absence 1:14:42 Speaker 1 of hard evidence that established 1:14:45 Speaker 1 that she did this crime. 1:14:48 Speaker 1 The affair was put on at trial. 1:14:54 Speaker 1 What became evident was that the affair, 1:14:57 Speaker 1 I think some of the jurors have given interviews 1:15:00 Speaker 1 since the trial. 1:15:01 Speaker 1 And I don't even think the jurors believed 1:15:03 Speaker 1 that the affair was the motive. 1:15:06 Speaker 1 The affair ended, it was often on, 1:15:09 Speaker 1 and it ended right after he died. 1:15:11 Speaker 1 There was no plan for them to run off 1:15:14 Speaker 1 and get married or anything like that, 1:15:16 Speaker 1 there was no discussion of long term commitment 1:15:22 Speaker 1 between the two of them. 1:15:23 Speaker 1 And I just don't think that the entrial had turned out 1:15:26 Speaker 1 that that wasn't very compelling as a reason for her 1:15:29 Speaker 1 to harm her beloved boys that extremely just 1:15:35 Speaker 1 because she was having a fling with some guy 1:15:38 Speaker 1 that didn't, I mean, didn't even matter enough 1:15:40 Speaker 1 to her to stay with him when he passed away. 1:15:42 Speaker 1 So what her husband passed away. 1:15:44 Speaker 1 So I don't think that really sure. 1:15:46 Speaker 1 I'm sorry. 1:15:48 Speaker 1 So the insurance policy was actually purchased by her husband back in 2017, 1:15:57 Speaker 1 like years and years and years ago. 1:15:59 Speaker 1 So that policy had been present for a really long time. 1:16:04 Speaker 1 Pretty much everyone I know that has any sort of assets or means 1:16:10 Speaker 1 has some kind of life insurance. 1:16:12 Speaker 1 That's not unusual, especially for a family that has a lot of assets. 1:16:17 Speaker 1 And it wasn't like it was a million dollars, which, you know, to me and to everybody, 1:16:23 Speaker 1 a million dollars is a lot of money. 1:16:26 Speaker 1 But when you look at how much he was making per year, that man was making a lot of 1:16:31 Speaker 1 money and he was very successful in his business. 1:16:34 Speaker 1 And, you know, he was in his, you know, he was very young when he passed away. 1:16:40 Speaker 1 And so it would be like saying for a million dollars, 1:16:44 Speaker 1 I'm gonna cut off an income stream of, 1:16:47 Speaker 1 you know, tens of millions of dollars over our lifetime. 1:16:49 Speaker 1 So it doesn't really make a lot of sense 1:16:51 Speaker 1 when you put it in context like that. 1:16:54 Speaker 1 And I mean, I guess if she needed the money, 1:16:56 Speaker 1 if getting a divorce, 1:16:57 Speaker 1 she would have probably gotten more money 1:16:58 Speaker 1 than a million dollars. 1:16:59 Speaker 1 Oh my goodness. 1:17:00 Speaker 1 That's a church. 1:17:01 Speaker 1 His, oh, she would have gotten, 1:17:02 Speaker 1 she would have gotten half of everything 1:17:04 Speaker 1 if she'd gotten a divorce, 1:17:05 Speaker 1 which would have been significantly more than that. 1:17:08 Speaker 1 So what about his family? 1:17:10 Speaker 1 I assume at this point she's the devil 1:17:12 Speaker 1 and they probably came out and testified 1:17:14 Speaker 1 pretty strongly or publicly against her. 1:17:17 Speaker 1 Well, obviously, I mean, they lost someone. 1:17:19 Speaker 1 They loved very much. 1:17:20 Speaker 1 And they were devastated by the loss of their brother 1:17:24 Speaker 1 and their son. 1:17:25 Speaker 1 And as any family of a decedent, 1:17:31 Speaker 1 they wanted justice. 1:17:33 Speaker 1 They believe from the beginning, 1:17:36 Speaker 1 literally the night that the police showed up at the house. 1:17:40 Speaker 1 Family members had made statements that they believed 1:17:42 Speaker 1 Corey was involved before they even knew how he had died. 1:17:46 Speaker 1 So they suspected her from the very beginning. 1:17:49 Speaker 1 They hired a private investigator that they spent over $100,000. 1:17:56 Speaker 1 That all came out at trial. 1:17:59 Speaker 1 Trying to put together the case that the police had not put together. 1:18:03 Speaker 1 And then the private investigator basically testified 1:18:06 Speaker 1 that he turned everything he had over to the police. 1:18:10 Speaker 1 And that resulted in her being charged. 1:18:14 Speaker 1 So the family was extremely involved 1:18:17 Speaker 1 in this prosecution from the very beginning. 1:18:21 Speaker 1 And so it was definitely a mission of the family 1:18:28 Speaker 1 to make sure that she was convicted. 1:18:30 Speaker 1 Did this private investigator get messed up the crime scene or anything like that as far as that goes? 1:18:36 Speaker 1 Oh yeah. 1:18:37 Speaker 1 I see the police were doing whatever and he got in there and how does that work? 1:18:41 Speaker 1 So, he admitted that on the stand that he had been in the home for lengthy periods of time with no one present. 1:18:52 Speaker 1 Going through documents, going through physical evidence. 1:18:56 Speaker 1 actually removed evidence from the home. 1:18:59 Speaker 1 He broke into a safe. 1:19:00 Speaker 1 He took a safe out of the house. 1:19:02 Speaker 1 All this came out of trial and took it 1:19:05 Speaker 1 and had it busted open at a safe store. 1:19:10 Speaker 1 So I mean, it was, I've never really had a homicide case 1:19:13 Speaker 1 before where the year before the person was charged 1:19:17 Speaker 1 because he passed away in March 1:19:20 Speaker 1 and she wasn't arrested until May of the following year. 1:19:25 Speaker 1 So you had all of this time where this investigator was out, 1:19:30 Speaker 1 investigating the case while she was just, 1:19:32 Speaker 1 you know, living her life with her sons 1:19:34 Speaker 1 and trying to deal with the loss of her husband. 1:19:37 Speaker 1 And then the second she was arrested, 1:19:39 Speaker 1 he was in the home for days and days and days 1:19:42 Speaker 1 going through physical evidence, 1:19:44 Speaker 1 not in the presence of police. 1:19:47 Speaker 1 That just sounds bizarre. 1:19:48 Speaker 1 It was. 1:19:51 Speaker 1 I mean, that almost seems like it'd be embarrassing 1:19:53 Speaker 1 the place and taining a lot of stuff. But was that any consequence to the jurors after you guys talk to him? 1:20:01 Speaker 1 The jurors thought he was great. He was a somewhat of a character, this individual, and they found him to be amusing and charming. 1:20:10 Speaker 1 And I just don't think the jury grasped what that interference with the evidence, the significance of that. They were just very 1:20:22 Speaker 1 in tranced with his testimony because he was kind of a character and he was 1:20:32 Speaker 1 entertaining for them to watch. So with regards to the actual murder and the 1:20:38 Speaker 1 fentanyl overdose, I'd read previously that she made a scene which was fentanyl and 1:20:44 Speaker 1 that didn't work. So how exactly does the government say that she overtosed 1:20:50 Speaker 1 to the federal. Well, that's the fascinating part about this case. They don't know. They couldn't say 1:20:58 Speaker 1 there was no evidence whatsoever, no physical evidence whatsoever about fentanyl in a sandwich. 1:21:05 Speaker 1 They had no evidence of that. None. The only thing they had was that she had purchased 1:21:12 Speaker 1 just an egg sandwich for her husband, like at nine in the morning. 1:21:19 Speaker 1 And I mean, we tried to get across to the jury that you would eat an egg sandwich right 1:21:23 Speaker 1 away because I mean, it would be gross if you ate it hours later, right? 1:21:31 Speaker 1 And so the timing didn't match the physical evidence, but at some point around 11 a.m., 1:21:38 Speaker 1 He texted and says he's not feeling well. 1:21:40 Speaker 1 And he's gonna lay down. 1:21:42 Speaker 1 And it looks like he took a nap for about an hour and a half. 1:21:45 Speaker 1 And that's the evidence that she tried to kill him. 1:21:47 Speaker 1 And then he got up and was fine 1:21:48 Speaker 1 and took the kids to play soccer. 1:21:50 Speaker 1 So that's the whole sandwich story. 1:21:53 Speaker 1 As far as the fentanyl that got into a system, 1:21:56 Speaker 1 the state had to admit, 1:21:58 Speaker 1 and trial they have no idea how it got into his system. 1:22:02 Speaker 1 There was speculation that maybe she tried to put it into a drink. 1:22:06 Speaker 1 However, the drink cups were present when the police came to the house sitting out, which obviously, you know, was liquid still in them. 1:22:15 Speaker 1 So if you had tried to murder someone, why in the world would you have the evidence just sitting there? I mean, that doesn't make any common sense. 1:22:23 Speaker 1 So, you know, it was always 1:22:26 Speaker 1 We argued from the beginning that these were pills that were voluntarily taken by this individual who may not have realized that he had, you know, fentanyl in his pills. 1:22:38 Speaker 1 He had an empty expired pill bottle right beside his bed when they found his body, which is a common way that people who are holding on to illicit drugs. 1:22:51 Speaker 1 They put him in expired pill bottles. So it doesn't look suspicious, right? 1:22:55 Speaker 1 And he had just returned from a trip hunting trip to Mexico. And so we tried to 1:23:00 Speaker 1 point out to the jury that, you know, this could be a situation where he went to Mexico. 1:23:04 Speaker 1 God, pills that he didn't realize had fentanyl or maybe he did realize had fentanyl. We don't know. 1:23:10 Speaker 1 But didn't realize the strength of it took a pill and no deed and died. I mean, that's that was what the evidence showed. 1:23:17 Speaker 1 That was what the physical evidence showed. 1:23:19 Speaker 1 So the pill bottle that you guys did having, 1:23:22 Speaker 1 did he have like something for back pain 1:23:24 Speaker 1 that he'd taken in the past or? 1:23:26 Speaker 1 Yes, so that pill bottle play. 1:23:28 Speaker 1 So he struggled a lot with pain. 1:23:31 Speaker 1 And we got that in at trial that he had chronic pain. 1:23:35 Speaker 1 So and he had had, we had a big evidentiary battle 1:23:40 Speaker 1 over trying to get in that he had had a problem 1:23:42 Speaker 1 with pain pills as far back as high school. 1:23:45 Speaker 1 And the judge wouldn't let it come in before the jury. 1:23:49 Speaker 1 We also had a big debate with over evidence. 1:23:55 Speaker 1 We had a witness who was going to testify that the 1:24:01 Speaker 1 decision had asked to buy fentanyl from him about a year and a 1:24:05 Speaker 1 half, two years before. 1:24:07 Speaker 1 And the judge would not allow that in. 1:24:09 Speaker 1 So the jury never heard that he had been seeking fentanyl 1:24:12 Speaker 1 from somebody, which we thought was really devastating. 1:24:15 Speaker 1 We couldn't get that evidence in because we thought that 1:24:17 Speaker 1 was extremely consistent with the theory that we had, that he was, you know, voluntarily 1:24:23 Speaker 1 taking pills and either didn't know he took fentanyl or didn't mean to take as much as he did. 1:24:29 Speaker 1 That seems like a pretty big error for the geology because I mean that would undercut the whole 1:24:34 Speaker 1 motive issue and show another cause of death that's viable. So I'm guessing you guys are still 1:24:41 Speaker 1 on appeal and the only big issue. Oh for sure. And I mean we we argued about it for a really 1:24:47 Speaker 1 long time, you know, it was a public argument and all came out and we just, the judge felt that the 1:24:54 Speaker 1 hearsay was not, we made an argument that it was reliable here saying why and that it should meet 1:25:01 Speaker 1 the catch all reliable hearsay exception. The judge just disagreed with us and he wins, so he kept it out 1:25:10 Speaker 1 and we thought that was really a serious injustice that that evidence didn't get before the jury. 1:25:16 Speaker 1 they should at least know that. 1:25:18 Speaker 1 So for the non-lawyer's here, 1:25:21 Speaker 1 how is it a witness that testifies and says 1:25:24 Speaker 1 the guy that died asked me to sell him fentanyl pills 1:25:28 Speaker 1 and he dies of a fentanyl overdose? 1:25:30 Speaker 1 How does that become hearsay versus just a pure fact 1:25:36 Speaker 1 by a decision that's dead? 1:25:38 Speaker 1 And what is this guy's inkling to say anything like that? 1:25:41 Speaker 1 I mean, what does this guy get out of it? 1:25:43 Speaker 1 So how is it not a trustworthy statement 1:25:45 Speaker 1 come in and admit to their own wrongdoing saying I'm selling this guy drugs? 1:25:50 Speaker 1 Well, he didn't sell him drugs. He didn't have fentanyl. He was shocked that the guy had asked him for it. 1:25:55 Speaker 1 So he's not actually a drug dealer. The testimony that, so that was not an issue. But he, 1:26:04 Speaker 1 you know, the theory of hearsay is that statements that are made outside of court 1:26:09 Speaker 1 from one person to another lose reliability if you can't come in court and say it to the jury directly. 1:26:16 Speaker 1 So it's kind of like the old game of operator where you sit around in a circle and someone whispers in your ear 1:26:23 Speaker 1 and then you tell someone what they told you and you tell someone what they told you and by the time it gets to the end 1:26:28 Speaker 1 it doesn't resemble anything that was actually said. So the law kind of has a similar 1:26:32 Speaker 1 or the importance for evidence that is repeated 1:26:37 Speaker 1 through other people. 1:26:38 Speaker 1 Just because it becomes less and less reliable, 1:26:40 Speaker 1 the farther away it gets from a person who said it, right? 1:26:44 Speaker 1 But there are exceptions. 1:26:45 Speaker 1 And you can put on a case that there's something 1:26:49 Speaker 1 about the statement that makes it particularly reliable 1:26:52 Speaker 1 even though it traveled through someone else. 1:26:54 Speaker 1 And so that's what we tried to do, 1:26:56 Speaker 1 but the judge just wasn't gonna have it. 1:26:59 Speaker 1 I guess it just seemed so coincidental 1:27:00 Speaker 1 he asked this guy, even though he's not a drug, he ought to do it, which would imply that 1:27:04 Speaker 1 he was looking forward, he had pain issues with opiates. 1:27:07 Speaker 1 Yes. It seems like it really guts the case at that point. 1:27:11 Speaker 1 It would have. We were really pretty devastated that didn't come in. 1:27:16 Speaker 1 I read about the maid that they had saying some negative things about your client or 1:27:23 Speaker 1 I guess you testified. Did that have any significant plans setting up this whole 1:27:27 Speaker 1 all poisoning a theory that the government had? 1:27:31 Speaker 1 Well, I mean, once they found her, 1:27:33 Speaker 1 that was what gave them, I guess, enough evidence 1:27:36 Speaker 1 to go ahead and charge my clients. 1:27:39 Speaker 1 That's what precipitated the actual filing of the charges. 1:27:44 Speaker 1 So the testimony came out that our client originally, 1:27:51 Speaker 1 this individual had claimed that our client 1:27:53 Speaker 1 had been asking for pain pills for oxy. 1:27:55 Speaker 1 And that was her original story, and that's what she told the police. 1:28:00 Speaker 1 And that's what the person who sold them the drugs told the police. 1:28:03 Speaker 1 Then the police came back, threatened her, the lady that worked for Ms. 1:28:11 Speaker 1 Richards, threatened her with jail, threatened her with prison and prosecution, 1:28:17 Speaker 1 unless she told them what they wanted to hear. 1:28:21 Speaker 1 And so then she changed her story and said, oh, right. 1:28:24 Speaker 1 She asked me for fentanyl, which there's, 1:28:29 Speaker 1 um, you know, hours and hours and hours of testimony and cross examination that my partner did 1:28:35 Speaker 1 of that individual, where basically she admits, you know, I changed my story. 1:28:39 Speaker 1 You know, they gave me these ultimatums and, you know, she asked them to tell me what you want me 1:28:45 Speaker 1 to say basically. 1:28:46 Speaker 1 I mean, not almost exactly those words. 1:28:48 Speaker 1 and then changed your story and gave them what they needed to charge our client. 1:28:53 Speaker 1 That was the only connection they could make between our client and fentanyl was that testament. 1:28:58 Speaker 1 That was it. 1:28:59 Speaker 1 And then the guy who sold the drugs came out and said they didn't look anything. 1:29:04 Speaker 1 I did not sell fentanyl. 1:29:06 Speaker 1 Fentanyl looked different and had a different. 1:29:08 Speaker 1 I wasn't even selling fentanyl at that time. 1:29:10 Speaker 1 I didn't have a fentanyl source. 1:29:12 Speaker 1 I only sold prescription oxycontin or oxycodone. 1:29:17 Speaker 1 And so, you know, that's, he was getting people's prescriptions 1:29:22 Speaker 1 and then selling them. 1:29:23 Speaker 1 So he wasn't even getting them like off street drugs. 1:29:27 Speaker 1 And he was, I thought he was a very compelling witness. 1:29:29 Speaker 1 I mean, you know, he's a drug dealer. 1:29:30 Speaker 1 So he's got credibility issues. 1:29:32 Speaker 1 But he was very, I mean, he was very straightforward 1:29:35 Speaker 1 on the stand. 1:29:36 Speaker 1 He just said, I sold Oxy. 1:29:38 Speaker 1 So I really believe there was reasonable doubt 1:29:42 Speaker 1 that could connect our client to fentanyl in any way. 1:29:44 Speaker 1 I guess just from a late person's perspective, it seems like I understand it's the defendant's 1:29:52 Speaker 1 statement. 1:29:53 Speaker 1 So the rules are different. 1:29:54 Speaker 1 But the maid can lie about what happened. 1:29:58 Speaker 1 And that's still okay, even though your client never made those statements. 1:30:02 Speaker 1 But some guy that says the dead husband asked me for this. 1:30:06 Speaker 1 That's just not good enough when he had a consistent story versus the other way around. 1:30:11 Speaker 1 Unfortunately, that's one more role of evidence that ways against criminal defense defendants. 1:30:18 Speaker 1 So the defendants statements are not considered here say if it's the prosecution that's 1:30:24 Speaker 1 introducing them. 1:30:25 Speaker 1 So that's a huge disadvantage to people. 1:30:29 Speaker 1 And a big reason why lawyers are always telling their clients, don't make a statement, 1:30:35 Speaker 1 don't talk to the police, don't talk to anybody because anything you say is fair game 1:30:41 Speaker 1 and can come into trial no matter who you say it to. 1:30:44 Speaker 1 Some of these super high profile cases, obviously, 1:30:48 Speaker 1 with all this salacious evidence, which I'm sure 1:30:51 Speaker 1 may well were powered the jury or a charismatic private 1:30:54 Speaker 1 investigator, which seems crazy. 1:30:56 Speaker 1 How do you actually select a jury that's not? 1:31:00 Speaker 1 This might be one of those cases where people 1:31:02 Speaker 1 want to be on the jury, because everybody 1:31:03 Speaker 1 wants a book deal in the back end, or have their five minutes 1:31:06 Speaker 1 and doing interviews and stuff. 1:31:07 Speaker 1 So how do you sort of get to the heart of the matter 1:31:11 Speaker 1 on a case like this where people can say 1:31:13 Speaker 1 they can be fair and impartial 1:31:15 Speaker 1 and everybody knows what's going on? 1:31:17 Speaker 1 You know, obviously it's a challenge. 1:31:20 Speaker 1 We worked really hard to screen the jury panel 1:31:27 Speaker 1 and eliminate anybody who had preexisting knowledge 1:31:32 Speaker 1 of this case who had been following it in social media 1:31:35 Speaker 1 who had been following it on the news. 1:31:38 Speaker 1 And even some of the jurors that got selected 1:31:42 Speaker 1 had a basic knowledge of the case, 1:31:44 Speaker 1 like they vaguely remembered hearing about it 1:31:47 Speaker 1 or had seen like one news story, 1:31:49 Speaker 1 but really didn't, hadn't, according to them, 1:31:53 Speaker 1 had not formed any opinions yet about the case. 1:31:57 Speaker 1 But we really strongly believed 1:32:00 Speaker 1 we could not get a fair trial in that county. 1:32:03 Speaker 1 And we had asked to change the venue to a county that just wasn't so saturated with everyone in the, I mean, you know, Park City, Utah, and it's surrounding areas is not, you know, a large, large community. 1:32:18 Speaker 1 So everybody talked about this case because they most people knew someone who was involved, right. 1:32:23 Speaker 1 So we really wanted to get to a bigger city where people, you know, had lives and we're busy and hadn't been talking about this case. 1:32:30 Speaker 1 We had experts that took the stand and talked about the saturation of media in that area and the community knowledge. 1:32:40 Speaker 1 And we lost. I mean, we just couldn't convince the judge. He was convinced we could find, you know, eight people that, you know, didn't have biases. 1:32:51 Speaker 1 and he would not allow us to change to the larger cities. 1:32:55 Speaker 1 So that we took it up on an interlocatory appeal, 1:32:58 Speaker 1 which means an appeal before the case went to trial, 1:33:01 Speaker 1 and we were not successful. 1:33:04 Speaker 1 Now you said eight people. 1:33:05 Speaker 1 So is you telling of a strange states 1:33:07 Speaker 1 that doesn't require 12 jurors like we hear on TV all the time? 1:33:12 Speaker 1 Yes, it is. 1:33:13 Speaker 1 But you still need to get out of this verdict, right? 1:33:16 Speaker 1 Yes. 1:33:18 Speaker 1 Okay. 1:33:18 Speaker 1 I know I was in the military, 1:33:19 Speaker 1 and it just takes two thirds to connect. 1:33:21 Speaker 1 So that just seems bizarre that you don't need 1:33:24 Speaker 1 fallagers. 1:33:26 Speaker 1 That just, I assume, hopefully that'll change soon for you guys. 1:33:29 Speaker 1 We did, we did file a motion asking for 12 1:33:31 Speaker 1 and we lost that as well. 1:33:33 Speaker 1 The judge said no. 1:33:36 Speaker 1 All right, so without taking up too much of your time. 1:33:39 Speaker 1 So what are next steps now that it really seems like, 1:33:42 Speaker 1 it was kind of one way traffic in this trial based on 1:33:46 Speaker 1 what seems like could be a reasonable explanation 1:33:48 Speaker 1 as to where the fentanyl came from. 1:33:51 Speaker 1 So what can you do to help this woman? 1:33:53 Speaker 1 Because I guess anybody can go by and see 1:33:55 Speaker 1 your life without parole, which obviously, 1:33:58 Speaker 1 as you can get. 1:33:59 Speaker 1 Yeah. 1:34:01 Speaker 1 I mean, it's the most devastating, 1:34:03 Speaker 1 short of the death penalty, 1:34:04 Speaker 1 it's the most devastating verdict sentence you can get. 1:34:09 Speaker 1 So obviously, the fight is now switching 1:34:13 Speaker 1 to a different venue. 1:34:14 Speaker 1 We have a motion for new trial that has been filed. 1:34:18 Speaker 1 The judge has not ruled on that yet. 1:34:20 Speaker 1 We asked the judge to step aside and appoint a different judge 1:34:25 Speaker 1 to decide the motion because in the motion we declare, 1:34:28 Speaker 1 we, one of our grounds for the motion for new trials 1:34:32 Speaker 1 that the judge was, we were denied a fair trial 1:34:37 Speaker 1 due to the fact that the judge was treating the state 1:34:42 Speaker 1 very differently than he was treating the defense 1:34:44 Speaker 1 in front of the jury. 1:34:46 Speaker 1 And we had, you know, clips that we attached. 1:34:49 Speaker 1 and affidavit. So obviously was our position. Look, it's really hard for you to be the one to decide if you were fair, not. 1:34:56 Speaker 1 So we're asking that another judge step in and make that decision. 1:35:01 Speaker 1 And we lost that as well. So the judge is going to be deciding 1:35:06 Speaker 1 himself if he was fair or if he was biased. So after that rolling, then there will be a direct appeal to the appellate courts, 1:35:15 Speaker 1 where we raise evidentiary errors. 1:35:19 Speaker 1 We do think there are some strong issues to raise in this case. 1:35:23 Speaker 1 We have a lot of confidence that there's a very good appeal 1:35:30 Speaker 1 in this case. 1:35:31 Speaker 1 I mean, we think that this battle is far from over. 1:35:35 Speaker 1 I don't think Corey Richon's story is over yet. 1:35:40 Speaker 1 Well, it sounds like enough film battle again, as I said, 1:35:42 Speaker 1 because you're asking the judge that did the trial 1:35:45 Speaker 1 admit that he or she made mistakes, which I don't imagine 1:35:48 Speaker 1 is going to go so well. 1:35:50 Speaker 1 Now, I think some of the rulings you talked about. 1:35:52 Speaker 1 Yeah. 1:35:53 Speaker 1 Kathy, I thank you so much for your time. 1:35:56 Speaker 1 Sure. 1:35:56 Speaker 1 And with your other client that was accused of shooting 1:36:01 Speaker 1 our famous person from Turning Point USA, 1:36:03 Speaker 1 maybe we can talk about that in about six or eight months. 1:36:06 Speaker 1 Once that case is over, the gag order is lifted. 1:36:09 Speaker 1 Well, I really appreciate having the chance 1:36:10 Speaker 1 to come on and talk about Ms. Rich and his case. 1:36:13 Speaker 1 And we're still fighting for her and we do believe in injustice was done and we're going to keep fighting for her. 1:36:21 Speaker 1 And you know, the trial is an interesting experience. 1:36:25 Speaker 1 And it's not something that we do every day. So I appreciate the chance to chat with you about it. 1:36:34 Speaker 1 Well, thank you so much. 1:36:35 Speaker 1 And I'm sure there's good fight. 1:36:38 Speaker 1 You can hear me. 1:36:39 Speaker 1 And I hope to see you again soon. 1:36:40 Speaker 1 All right, bye. 1:36:42 Speaker 1 Bye, Mimi.